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thank you Steve and Thank You Cheryl

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well I'm obviously looking at the the

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banner as we all of us enter at the

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hotel and it's really basically why I'm

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here as we see it's basically about lies

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on the ground although I of course will

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not put it like that and before I

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actually move an inch here I will make

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it very clear to you that Nick Pope is a

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friend will remain a friend as far as I

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am concerned but I am here to take well

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certainly to give you a different story

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through the official explanation of the

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British government's involvement in crop

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circle phenomenon it's worth remembering

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I see Nick out here it's the right he's

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still smiling so that's a good sign it

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is worth remembering as I'm sure he has

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reminded many audience around the world

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himself that he is sworn to the Official

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Secrets Act

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and therefore he is not ever in a

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position to speak to an audience or to

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the media or anybody else in an

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unofficial capacity related to his work

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his work he is still sworn to the

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Official Secrets Act so therefore what I

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am going to postulate here is that the

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bosses that Nick had when he worked at

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that desk except stereo 2a there in a

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Whitehall London he still has they are

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there watching briefing and I don't know

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Nick's every day and that is for him the

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reason that I am here is that I know a

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different story I know it very

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differently and the article that Nick

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wrote a couple of years ago now stating

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the official position now that needs to

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be heard loud and clear the official

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position of the British government's

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Ministry of Defence and its involvement

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or not the Royal households involvement

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or not or the Prime Minister Margaret

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Thatcher's government

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or not and according to Nick really

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there was basically very little on all

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fronts I'm here to tell you that is not

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the case and I brought with me a

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documentary evidence on it in one

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particular area and I'll pull it out as

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we come through this it

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unfortunately requires me to speak a

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little bit in detail about a couple of

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individuals which is really not the is

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not usually my scene

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it's not anything I've ever done

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everybody's entitled to opinions

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everybody's entitled to their own

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research etc etc but when it crosses the

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line and history is rewritten this is

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largely this is carefully to Richards

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presentation before me history is

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important unfortunately often is the

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case history is written by the winner

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you listen and interview the losers and

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you get the history so that's very often

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the case and in this case it is

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different but before we actually move

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off I want to take just just if I may a

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couple of more minutes than I did last

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week I was on a platform with Edgar

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Mitchell in New York at the Institute of

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noetic Sciences and wish to draw the

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audience there and yours too if I may to

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my good friend Pat Delgado who is

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gravely ill a good man I'm sorry about

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that I knew this was going to happen

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obviously a very good friend we are very

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good friends Pat was very much longside

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my side in the early days of this

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research in the early 80s and as a man

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who is a Electrotechnical

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electro-mechanical a design engineer for

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NASA and the womb are tracking facility

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when he and I met one another and

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started research there was nobody in the

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fields when we started the race

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in 1983 there was nobody but the farmers

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I was I had a privileged position of a

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senior official in regional government

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central southern England as a local

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authority called test Valley runs down

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to the English Channel and that with

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couple of camis either side and most

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kind of privileged to have access to a

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number of offices and departments police

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departments and at times through Nick

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himself into some other facilities like

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Boston bang a top-secret air

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establishment in central southern

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England where I was inquiring of

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information that they may or may not be

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gathering well I just wanted to put this

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right in front of you that Pat has been

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deeply involved right alongside me and

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he needs our prayers and our thoughts

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today

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so from here in I will not be referring

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throughout to Nick it's not fair on him

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he's doing a job

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I am simply now relating the official

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information of which he was using to

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state the official position

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I dropped my glasses so that I can

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actually see my own screen here so that

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basically is where I've come from just

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to kind of see the stamp that it isn't a

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casual this lost me my job and my

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marriage and my country so believe me I

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have paid a reasonable price to be in

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front of you today

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thank you I didn't say it for that

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reason at all I just simply wanted you

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to see there's been a lot connect to it

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4,000 Plus circles are 5 and 250

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individual designs 50 countries a

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thousand hours of video at least but

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Plus isn't very under than here 40

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thousand old photographs and ten

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thousand of documents plus so that's the

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background well as we all know the crop

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circles evolved from those early days

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when they literally were I invented the

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term crop circle it is I am at least I

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got something under my hat for it crop

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circles every time I hear it never sight

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my god they came out of my mouth but

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they were crop circles simple circles

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and now of course their geometries and

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the term doesn't do them justice that's

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I don't just use real name one more time

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Nick that is the opening that's the

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front page of his next report article

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stroke report I mean it's both things

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that can be seen on his website and and

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on my own with with with Nick's

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permission now what I'm going to be

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doing is for this this presentation

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comes in two halves it's a much of

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lighter second half and I'll be pleased

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to get there too it's a much and it's

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what I think this is all about

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in fact I'm convinced it's what it's all

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about but I'm not here to try and

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convince you of anything I'm simply here

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volunteering to share my information

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that's the only reason that I'm here so

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what I'm going to do is I put a yellow

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box around I hope this is all very clear

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on the screen if you kind of come back

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that's it to to the material there

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you'll see a yellow box around it what

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we'll do is I'll go to the the boxes

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like this because it rather than take

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the whole report I'm going to pick out

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the pieces that are really quite

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important like that so this is the

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opening and I'll read it with you in

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case there is any difficulty anywhere

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here this is how it begins this world

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world exclusive RF ball will deal this

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is not mine as Nick's will deal with

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only one aspect of the mystery namely

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official involvement

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in the phenomena several allegations

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have been made concerning interest

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although part of the Ministry of Defense

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and the military but it is there but is

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there any truth to such claims have the

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government being involved is there any

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official interest this article sets the

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record straight and lifts the lid on one

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of the Ministry of Defense's mo be most

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bizarre x-files he goes on and I've just

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pulled this the report goes on had just

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pulled this aside and I agree as far as

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I know this is where it began the first

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mo D that will always mean Ministry of

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Defense involvement was in 1985

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lieutenant colonel HTM investigated a

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set of circles well I wasn't far away

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either nor was the team that I was

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working with his report was his report

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was sent to Secretariat air staff who

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delivered more than acknowledged it

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because it was sent to the UFO

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department it was taken by some

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researchers and that will in meeting

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because we were the only ones there

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myself doctor meeting Pappagallo

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and bus detailer some researchers to me

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military were interested in the

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phenomena per se this confirmed in some

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researchers Minds a link between the two

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phenomena UFO crop circles when in fact

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there were many conflicting theories

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about crop circles well just casually

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say look this way past this specific

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paragraph is really there were only

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three theories at that time it is true

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that developed into many and there are

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many more now than there ever were in

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those days we were really looking at a

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natural meteorological vortices of some

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sort of Mother Earth the earth itself or

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extraterrestrial those were the kind of

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three niches that the researchers

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themselves cast out there and in the

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early television programs of which you

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would have may have seen many that's the

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kind of place where this debate began

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and these are the photographs this is

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just a few of the photographs

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photographs seventh most of which you

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will have not seen before this was

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discovered but not known when it arrived

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remember this is a set of five circles

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forming a cross at a place the size of

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my tang that the current wage firm

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investigated discovered 31st of July not

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known when you actually appeared that's

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worth remembering because we're going to

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see some stuff here photograph taken by

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the Ministry of Defense Army Air Corps

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Midland wall up Hampshire England just

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over the hill within two miles twenty

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five days before with an official

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Hampshire police investigation who

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themselves in the normal procedure

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uploaded completed and uploaded a UFO

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report to the Ministry of Defence this

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is not referred to in any of the

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literature was this wonderful elderly

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senior citizen couple who I interviewed

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many times I was the major civil

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emergency communications officer for

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central southern cactus Valley Regional

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Government at this time and I lived my

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life surrounded by radio frequencies of

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one quart kind of or another because the

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function was to be prepared central

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regional government responds to at the

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time a conflict between the east and

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west and therefore I heard from Bravo

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alpha police control in Winchester

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Hampshire I just happened to it's the

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way my life seems to be just in the

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right place at the right time

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I'm listening to the police control

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calling two vehicles from two

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neighboring towns to make their way to

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this location where a 999 9-1-1 in this

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country a report from these very fluster

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and very upset people as they traveled

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along this minor highway behind them mr.

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and mrs. Jack Collins they've seen this

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enormous Ferris wheel stood on its end

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just like a circus Ferris will students

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end perfectly stationary well what's

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that got to do with crop service it may

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not have nothing it may have nothing

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but it's in the equation at this point

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because you'll see over to your the top

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left 31st utilized of crop circles that

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correlates from investigated it should

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be on the screen here now thank you

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you'll see that up over up over here is

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the mo D investigation by Colonel

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Eckstrom over the hill by less than two

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miles 6th of July was the ferris wheel

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and down to the right 6th of July same

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day and it may well be that all three

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remember we don't know when that 31st of

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July discovery actually appeared it was

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in a very remote place the others were

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less remote and they were seen same day

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so we've got the 6th of July UFO reports

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6th of July down near Winchester and the

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identical same design in the field I'm

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not suggesting for a moment that this is

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elements that UFOs calls crop circles by

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the end of this presentation I will be

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strongly suggesting that we take all of

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the barriers down all of the fence is

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separating these range of paranormal

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kind subjects and link them into the

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study of human consciousness that's

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where this is my own convinced of it

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personally and I'll bring you along with

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some more information to come so that's

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what happened with regard to V only the

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first official investigation now this

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look a little bit more closely at the

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report that was entered that is

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submitted by the Army Airport middle

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wallet under this apron alleged them to

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the Ministry of Defense in actually in

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in the department that Nick eventually

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finished up of course in charge of their

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look a little bit more closely you

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haven't seen that refer to any of the

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releases from the British government in

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the recent months that term this is only

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the third word in the first official

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document and we've only just started

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we see the word you have a question

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that's not being referred to it wasn't

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in the report it wasn't in the releases

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that came out neither was any reference

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to the police report and investigation

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into circumstances surrounding these

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sets of circles that appeared in 85

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so Heath this is the colonel himself

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saying UFO question mark

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could it be well it's there in the

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aircraft at the time not referred to in

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any official literature was the aircraft

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accident investigation officer himself

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major djaro of really and all of them

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let me just take a step at a time in the

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blue there middle of the screen there

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was absolutely no tracks in the fleet he

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goes on we can cut through you just to

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see all of this on the website by the

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way Colin Andrews dotnet however there

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was no way of moving from one to the

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other he's there say here from one

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circle to the other without leaving

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tracks in the wheat except by going some

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200 yards to the edge of the field and

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then back down another main Ferro mini

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tractor tire mark one of the smaller

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holes many circles was completely

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isolated and ending this they all sign

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on to this signed by though edge them

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none of us could offer any reasonable

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explanation and so my question before we

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move on to the next the next part of

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this is that the fact that there was no

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reasonable explanation the Minister of

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Defense had the documents from their own

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department here at middle wallet and the

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police report saying that this happened

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over the hill why was there not an

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official investigation into the UFO this

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word by the way I'm going to say it

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let's just have it all out because

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history is important I'm not going too

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far but this is much more to the story I

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have been personally encouraged by a

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number of government departments this

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side the water and the other side of

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water

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to remove my vocabulary you'll see more

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of this in a moment the word UFO when we

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are talking about crop circles it's like

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somebody somewhere is determined to

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remove separate the to separate them

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there's something much more nervous in

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the under field the low-lying invisible

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field of government related to the UFO

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then there are appears to be in the crop

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service I think the crop circles have

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basically unless we can reconstitute our

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research have is seriously damaged and

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will we'll get there in a moment

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it's like humans tend to do we kind of

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shoot ourselves in the foot an awful lot

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okay there are four official questions

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this is the report the official report

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released in Parliament and answers were

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given yes they were recorded enhancer at

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the official British government record

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of questions and answers raised in the

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houses of parliament let's read this

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together I'll read this for you

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questions in power of the Parliament

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11th of July 1989 mr. Teddy Taylor

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that's a member of parliament

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representing his his people in his

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community to ask the Minister of

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Agriculture and Fisheries and food this

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is a department in British government

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Henry reports has he has received on

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patron of the flattening of circular

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areas in cereal fields in southwest and

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other areas of England respectively and

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if he will make a statement

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this is often at all by the way I please

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I stand to be corrected we do have a

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question time here this is a tool for

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the often for the government to place on

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the record something it wishes just

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placed on the record and this is how

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it's done and this is know this is mr.

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Ryder coming back now for the department

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the flattening of circular areas though

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so this is a bit that goes in the record

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in cereal fields is a phenomenon known

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to occur from time to time it is

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confined to winter cereal crops not true

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and is more relevant in dry seasons

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not true but we have no arrangements for

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recording such occurrences and therefore

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cannot comment on their frequency not

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true cereal hence misses the cereal

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fields have come back to Parliament

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again this is the official British

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record of those questions 11th of July

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89 the same Member of Parliament mr.

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Teddy Tabor to ask the Secretary of

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State for Defence what progress has been

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made in the inquiries initiated by the

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army helicopters based in the southwest

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investigating the origin of flattened

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cereal areas of wheat and if he will

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make a statement we need something on

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the record and so the Ministry of

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Defence comes back is not conducting any

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inquiries into the origins of flattened

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circular areas of crops

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however we are satisfied that they are

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not caused by service helicopter

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activity that I believe is true well

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this might be what they never ever

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wanted you to see and I and I I hope I

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don't take risks and putting it out here

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I was the civilian who was working with

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these people that have been denied in

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Britain in British Parliament you'll see

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the top there this is I have series many

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photographs that complement these I'm

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just showing you representative per site

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so you have along the top there taken by

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the British Army

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there are army helicopters at the bottom

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I spent most of one day in the

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top-secret air establishment of Boston

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bang going through with there of course

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I was never let it have their sight but

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going through the official negatives

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this is not these are not people that

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are just cash and filling out and

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snapping their own photographs of

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interest as you and I would do as I'm

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sure we do when we're flying from one

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city to another so this is taken by this

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is the current name it was not what was

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there when I was there the aeroplane and

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Ireland experimental establishment a and

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a EE at Boscombe down

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in southern England this happened to be

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at the bottom the design that many

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started to do got to know as mother as

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crying as mother earth is this was a

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pattern that the Native Americans in

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particular reacted very strongly to I

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had people friends of mine and family

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who were presenting the documentation of

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the aerial photography to native people

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around the world trying to get their

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feedback

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I think this is what a lot of this is

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all about man-made or not let's get

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there further down the road this

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particular design meant a lot for a lot

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of native people and the the mo D and

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services associated were taking

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photographs of them here it is a game

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top left the the photo have also the top

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right there's stories to all of these

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and we don't have time to get there I

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have to say because I am sure there's

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going to be some comeback on some of

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this I have to make sure that you know

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that the overlay on that right-hand side

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photograph is my research insertion

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that's what I've looked at closely and

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have marked it up in an appropriate

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manner for internal research in other

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words that was not on those that were

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surrounded in blue was not on the

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official photograph well I got lots to

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raise and there's more than I can say

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again in the time available here with a

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lot to get through but I do have some

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things to say the top left-hand

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photograph is just one taken we have

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movie - I was with a group of

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researchers at Alton barns Wiltshire

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England in the mid-90s when two army

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gazelle helicopters approached us as we

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were looking at these particular crop

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markings and during the whole sequence

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of what appeared to be I'll never prove

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anything but what appeared to be the

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helicopters wishing us to move away they

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were coming down you know some of you

509
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will have seen this on television it's

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been on sightings and a number of

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television programs filmed in my

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presence

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where

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the helicopters come within feet of our

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heads and the hedgerow the hedges nearby

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bird coming bouncing down and hitting

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the vehicle that we were stood alongside

518
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they were that close

519
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and the intention seemed to be very

520
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clearly it was either extraordinarily

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dangerous flying in a public area or

522
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they wanted us over there well a second

523
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helicopter came in as the first one

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backed away moved to the back of this

525
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field that you can see and there is an

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orb one of these orbs that keeps coming

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up these small UFOs whatever they are

528
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and this orb is in front of the

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helicopter that it's I would imagine by

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looking at all sequences of footage of

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many times it seems like one of the

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pilots is saying to the other guy yet he

533
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yet come right come right come right you

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there you're there right you of it we're

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seeing this in filming it so from about

536
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probably 800 about 800 yards like the

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thing and then in one frame of that film

538
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of which again can be seen on the

539
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internet the or is gone and is now

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behind the helicopter and the pilot

541
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doesn't really know whether he's going

542
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to back up over it he's being told it's

543
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behind him very obviously by the manner

544
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in which he's moving that aircraft or to

545
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swivel his aircraft and and to see it

546
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that way because it's now behind him

547
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well the official footage that we

548
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:33,290
recorded and this was a person

549
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:36,019
contracted to NASA that I was with at

550
00:25:33,289 --> 00:25:38,960
that time and other British American

551
00:25:36,019 --> 00:25:43,279
researchers to that footage for cents of

552
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:45,860
a head no less of William the head of

553
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:49,460
all land forces in Great Britain at

554
00:25:45,859 --> 00:25:53,750
Wilson in Wiltshire for analysis that

555
00:25:49,460 --> 00:25:57,590
was an official investigation into a UFO

556
00:25:53,750 --> 00:26:00,289
over crop circles that has not been

557
00:25:57,589 --> 00:26:02,599
released by the under the freedom of

558
00:26:00,289 --> 00:26:03,269
information this new era of honesty that

559
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:05,819
were no

560
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:08,400
currently looking at and I doubt that it

561
00:26:05,819 --> 00:26:10,919
will frankly and as though if there's an

562
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:14,130
awful lot that's going to come out that

563
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,650
was in or has been in the official

564
00:26:14,130 --> 00:26:19,350
archives so there's my question with

565
00:26:16,650 --> 00:26:24,540
regard from the official report where is

566
00:26:19,349 --> 00:26:26,730
that is it coming what else is it was in

567
00:26:24,539 --> 00:26:29,639
there that is not is not out and will

568
00:26:26,730 --> 00:26:31,980
not be coming so history is important I

569
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,920
think before we just go on to these

570
00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:38,220
others we are all being told in the

571
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:41,640
Western world right now and I hope that

572
00:26:38,220 --> 00:26:44,519
God if this is true we are now living in

573
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:48,690
a period that's let's cut the past

574
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:51,509
behind we got here just about with lies

575
00:26:48,690 --> 00:26:55,410
and deception on every level of daily

576
00:26:51,509 --> 00:26:57,299
life every level every seventh every

577
00:26:55,410 --> 00:27:01,050
seven minutes we watch an adverse them

578
00:26:57,299 --> 00:27:03,629
build upon lies and distortion every

579
00:27:01,049 --> 00:27:05,970
political speech is spin and distortion

580
00:27:03,630 --> 00:27:08,130
and who can go on like this you can look

581
00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:10,289
at your movies and from other programs

582
00:27:08,130 --> 00:27:14,550
70 channels at a time it's all

583
00:27:10,289 --> 00:27:17,789
artificial nonsense so we are living in

584
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:21,210
a time that is crucial to our very

585
00:27:17,789 --> 00:27:25,289
survival and this better be the time

586
00:27:21,210 --> 00:27:27,900
when the truth is laid out exactly as it

587
00:27:25,289 --> 00:27:30,990
is for all of us to see and for all of

588
00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:33,300
us as individuals to face the mirrors

589
00:27:30,990 --> 00:27:36,329
and to clear our backgrounds and names

590
00:27:33,299 --> 00:27:38,789
and the skeletons in our closet because

591
00:27:36,329 --> 00:27:42,179
times that are coming are going to be

592
00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:45,899
tough but we can and we will make it

593
00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:48,720
only with one I believe precondition

594
00:27:45,900 --> 00:27:53,630
that we learn fast

595
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,630
what wealth and respect is

596
00:28:03,929 --> 00:28:08,440
well on the right hand side this is a

597
00:28:06,250 --> 00:28:10,808
whole lecture on memory not again not

598
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,570
time to go but just for the record that

599
00:28:10,808 --> 00:28:16,808
the operation Blackbird was a

600
00:28:13,569 --> 00:28:19,028
surveillance operation central central

601
00:28:16,808 --> 00:28:21,788
southern England you many of you know

602
00:28:19,028 --> 00:28:24,548
about it where BBC and nipple on

603
00:28:21,788 --> 00:28:28,710
television co-founded the operation we

604
00:28:24,548 --> 00:28:33,398
were on a British Army mo deal and and

605
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:35,860
the several several groups of military

606
00:28:33,398 --> 00:28:38,408
were involved in the actual surveillance

607
00:28:35,859 --> 00:28:41,490
operation the guys you can see on that

608
00:28:38,409 --> 00:28:45,460
top right-hand side uniformed personnel

609
00:28:41,490 --> 00:28:48,490
from rimi in Aldershot were attached to

610
00:28:45,460 --> 00:28:51,730
the visible public operation Blackbird

611
00:28:48,490 --> 00:28:55,058
the guys you're seeing down to the left

612
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:57,278
with actually that is not perfectly what

613
00:28:55,058 --> 00:29:00,210
I just told you is correct what I was

614
00:28:57,278 --> 00:29:03,730
afraid to say is not factually accurate

615
00:29:00,210 --> 00:29:07,389
to the bottom left-hand side was an

616
00:29:03,730 --> 00:29:11,710
operation which was secret at the base

617
00:29:07,388 --> 00:29:14,829
of Silbury Hill in Wiltjer which there

618
00:29:11,710 --> 00:29:16,808
were a number of units involved one unit

619
00:29:14,829 --> 00:29:19,359
I've had this from and still in touch

620
00:29:16,808 --> 00:29:22,178
with some of these guys who are telling

621
00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:25,689
me that they were crawling over other

622
00:29:22,179 --> 00:29:29,740
forces in the fields around Silbury Hill

623
00:29:25,690 --> 00:29:31,509
that were they had no idea that were

624
00:29:29,740 --> 00:29:34,329
involved in any operation at all so you

625
00:29:31,509 --> 00:29:36,250
had units following units you there was

626
00:29:34,329 --> 00:29:38,500
there was extraordinary stuff going on

627
00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:40,538
within miles of operation Blackbird

628
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:42,909
that's surveillance operation what they

629
00:29:40,538 --> 00:29:45,778
captured was the fit that you see on the

630
00:29:42,909 --> 00:29:49,679
bottom right hand side was a very large

631
00:29:45,778 --> 00:29:53,109
UFO I mean it was a very large light

632
00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:57,610
illuminated object well we'll come back

633
00:29:53,109 --> 00:29:59,379
to that well mr. Colvin - as Rebecca

634
00:29:57,609 --> 00:30:01,538
mentioned first Parliament leaves oh no

635
00:29:59,380 --> 00:30:04,778
the last two I believe questions that

636
00:30:01,538 --> 00:30:05,888
have been officially asked to ask the

637
00:30:04,778 --> 00:30:07,659
Secretary of State for the Home

638
00:30:05,888 --> 00:30:10,490
Department now a member to the Home

639
00:30:07,659 --> 00:30:14,570
Department if he will call for a report

640
00:30:10,490 --> 00:30:16,519
is actually really rather important from

641
00:30:14,569 --> 00:30:19,730
the chief constable which is the Chief

642
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:22,369
of Police of Hampshire and will chair

643
00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:24,558
two counties on their investigations

644
00:30:22,369 --> 00:30:26,449
into the cornfield circles in Hampshire

645
00:30:24,558 --> 00:30:28,670
and Wiltshire what does the estimated

646
00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:33,289
cost of these investigations and if he

647
00:30:28,670 --> 00:30:35,890
will make a statement mr. heard this is

648
00:30:33,289 --> 00:30:38,389
from Parliament for the government I

649
00:30:35,890 --> 00:30:40,730
understand from the chief constables of

650
00:30:38,390 --> 00:30:43,160
Hampshire and wheelchair that there have

651
00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:45,620
been no investigations we're back to

652
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:50,110
that again ends of the cornfield circles

653
00:30:45,619 --> 00:30:53,329
by their officers 17th of October 1989

654
00:30:50,109 --> 00:30:55,689
mr. Colvin the Member of Parliament to

655
00:30:53,329 --> 00:31:00,109
ask the Secretary of State for Defence

656
00:30:55,690 --> 00:31:03,950
whether any official assistance has been

657
00:31:00,109 --> 00:31:05,119
given by service personnel to civilians

658
00:31:03,950 --> 00:31:07,850
now this is me

659
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:10,729
you can put Colin Andrews name right on

660
00:31:07,849 --> 00:31:13,308
there to civilians investigating the

661
00:31:10,730 --> 00:31:15,920
origin of cornfield circles in Hampshire

662
00:31:13,308 --> 00:31:19,339
and Wiltjer and if he will make a

663
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:21,860
statement we want it on the record mr.

664
00:31:19,339 --> 00:31:25,099
arch Hamilton this is for the first

665
00:31:21,859 --> 00:31:27,379
government I am not aware of any that's

666
00:31:25,099 --> 00:31:30,619
interesting wording though I am not

667
00:31:27,380 --> 00:31:32,750
aware of any official assistance having

668
00:31:30,619 --> 00:31:36,558
been given by service personnel to

669
00:31:32,750 --> 00:31:38,558
civilians investigating the origins of

670
00:31:36,558 --> 00:31:41,990
crop service

671
00:31:38,558 --> 00:31:43,730
ceilings photographs those are

672
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:46,789
photographs taken from the headquarters

673
00:31:43,730 --> 00:31:49,940
by myself in the presence of senior

674
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:52,220
police officials enhanced replace the

675
00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:54,500
very chief that have told now the head

676
00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:57,200
of state the Queen that's who you're

677
00:31:54,500 --> 00:32:02,480
speaking to in Parliament to the British

678
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:06,049
public to the men members of parliament

679
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:09,079
and to the Prime Minister who was then

680
00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:13,308
Margaret Thatcher that these Official

681
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:14,899
departments are not involved these

682
00:32:13,308 --> 00:32:17,539
photographs and there are actually some

683
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:19,550
rather important ones were taken by

684
00:32:17,539 --> 00:32:22,418
Hampshire police and I obtained those

685
00:32:19,549 --> 00:32:25,148
from the police themselves was I will

686
00:32:22,419 --> 00:32:27,369
getting an extraordinary amount of

687
00:32:25,148 --> 00:32:30,819
cooperation for which I am thankful that

688
00:32:27,368 --> 00:32:33,519
I am saying to you we need this recorded

689
00:32:30,819 --> 00:32:36,489
with honesty and accuracy because this

690
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:38,769
phenomenon is going somewhere you have

691
00:32:36,489 --> 00:32:41,889
not heard the last of the crop circle

692
00:32:38,769 --> 00:32:44,319
phenomenon and so the top left appeared

693
00:32:41,888 --> 00:32:46,269
after a very bizarre series of

694
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:47,888
circumstances which again work on a

695
00:32:46,269 --> 00:32:50,440
touch upon in a moment

696
00:32:47,888 --> 00:32:56,308
the bottom right is the first pictogram

697
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:59,200
ever to appear on planet Earth in 1990

698
00:32:56,308 --> 00:33:02,618
recorded by Hampshire police aerial

699
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,710
surveillance aircraft from Lyon zone in

700
00:33:02,618 --> 00:33:08,829
Hampshire

701
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:11,798
well here is that civilian researcher

702
00:33:08,829 --> 00:33:14,108
Colin Andrews in the blue car actually

703
00:33:11,798 --> 00:33:16,210
photographed by the very surveillance

704
00:33:14,108 --> 00:33:19,239
aircraft that I had asked couldn't be

705
00:33:16,210 --> 00:33:21,129
made available I don't think the

706
00:33:19,239 --> 00:33:23,379
evidence comes much stronger than that

707
00:33:21,128 --> 00:33:25,898
here is the civilian here's which the

708
00:33:23,378 --> 00:33:30,788
police surveillance aircraft and their

709
00:33:25,898 --> 00:33:32,918
official photograph and another site on

710
00:33:30,788 --> 00:33:35,378
the right-hand side and I'm going to

711
00:33:32,919 --> 00:33:39,070
reiterate because it's important for me

712
00:33:35,378 --> 00:33:41,528
to do this I do have the greatest of

713
00:33:39,069 --> 00:33:45,689
respect I think Nick knows this for Nick

714
00:33:41,528 --> 00:33:49,319
this is not a matter of Nick Pope giving

715
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:51,909
inaccurate untruthful information I

716
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:54,519
wanted to reiterate it because it's not

717
00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:56,739
a situation for any of us have time to

718
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:59,829
get personal on this it isn't where it's

719
00:33:56,739 --> 00:34:03,519
all coming from he was given the wrong

720
00:33:59,829 --> 00:34:05,558
information right so we move on they

721
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:07,358
went back to the Wiltshire police

722
00:34:05,558 --> 00:34:08,500
officer who told Parliament

723
00:34:07,358 --> 00:34:11,168
head-of-state

724
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:13,389
prime minister and all the rest no

725
00:34:11,168 --> 00:34:16,628
involvement we're not doing anything

726
00:34:13,389 --> 00:34:19,030
here were not involved well you see the

727
00:34:16,628 --> 00:34:20,949
top left hand photograph a man called

728
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:24,220
Roy Lucas a farmer and central southern

729
00:34:20,949 --> 00:34:27,878
England gained nearly three in wilshire

730
00:34:24,219 --> 00:34:31,269
witness spiralling a rapid aspiring

731
00:34:27,878 --> 00:34:33,960
tonne of moisture it appeared to be

732
00:34:31,269 --> 00:34:37,059
moisture although he did describe as

733
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:39,400
it does seem as if it was a Latin

734
00:34:37,059 --> 00:34:41,469
spheric gradient that squeezed the water

735
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,150
molecules out of the air and there was a

736
00:34:41,469 --> 00:34:47,409
spiraling column of mist which then

737
00:34:43,150 --> 00:34:49,690
exploded out suddenly anticipated to be

738
00:34:47,409 --> 00:34:51,369
followed by prop circles appearing in

739
00:34:49,690 --> 00:34:54,460
that field the phenomena jumped the

740
00:34:51,369 --> 00:34:57,099
field and they appear at their - this is

741
00:34:54,460 --> 00:35:00,099
of the top left is a recorded photograph

742
00:34:57,099 --> 00:35:02,139
by Wiltshire police who had their own

743
00:35:00,099 --> 00:35:05,199
aircraft over the top to take those

744
00:35:02,139 --> 00:35:08,799
photographs top right same in an

745
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:11,230
adjacent field the bottom left-hand

746
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,330
photograph our circles remember these

747
00:35:11,230 --> 00:35:15,400
are all simple circles compared to the

748
00:35:13,329 --> 00:35:18,250
latest situation and there may well be

749
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:22,210
very rational explanation for that we

750
00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:24,550
will get there these circles appeared in

751
00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:26,829
the field underneath that little board

752
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:29,320
you know I said the UFO that had been

753
00:35:26,829 --> 00:35:33,250
filled by a secret army surveillance

754
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:35,110
operation around Silbury Hill and that's

755
00:35:33,250 --> 00:35:38,440
the official Wiltshire police photograph

756
00:35:35,110 --> 00:35:41,860
of the circles in the field that was

757
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:46,269
underneath that or and another one to

758
00:35:41,860 --> 00:35:47,710
the right this is the part of the

759
00:35:46,269 --> 00:35:50,800
lecture though I'm not murdering joy

760
00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:53,400
particularly I will not enjoy this but I

761
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:56,230
feel now we have to put this straight

762
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,420
these questions were the yellow box

763
00:35:56,230 --> 00:36:00,809
remember all every time comes from

764
00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:03,099
official report the new put together

765
00:36:00,809 --> 00:36:08,139
these questions were inspired by

766
00:36:03,099 --> 00:36:09,940
researchers Paul 4 and generals who had

767
00:36:08,139 --> 00:36:11,980
contacted their members of parliament

768
00:36:09,940 --> 00:36:15,730
and you saw that in those questions and

769
00:36:11,980 --> 00:36:17,289
asked them to raise the matter the

770
00:36:15,730 --> 00:36:18,909
answers would have been drafted by

771
00:36:17,289 --> 00:36:21,759
officials within the respective

772
00:36:18,909 --> 00:36:23,139
government departments in the case of

773
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,570
the two questions answered by the

774
00:36:23,139 --> 00:36:28,659
defence ministers this meant that civil

775
00:36:25,570 --> 00:36:32,410
servants in separate secretary AAAS had

776
00:36:28,659 --> 00:36:34,839
drafted the response I am going to be

777
00:36:32,409 --> 00:36:36,969
very careful here and say that all I

778
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,450
want to say is that I find it

779
00:36:36,969 --> 00:36:42,909
extraordinarily curious that these are

780
00:36:40,449 --> 00:36:46,098
the two names that have moved forward

781
00:36:42,909 --> 00:36:48,379
into the scene to have the

782
00:36:46,099 --> 00:36:51,140
questions allow the British government

783
00:36:48,380 --> 00:36:52,880
to put an official record in place which

784
00:36:51,139 --> 00:36:53,659
was then move on to Nick to put it

785
00:36:52,880 --> 00:37:00,650
publicly

786
00:36:53,659 --> 00:37:04,219
and this is why intriguing that these

787
00:37:00,650 --> 00:37:07,548
are the same individuals who are who

788
00:37:04,219 --> 00:37:09,889
were at a senior level in Beaufort in

789
00:37:07,548 --> 00:37:12,228
Great Britain this is the new phone

790
00:37:09,889 --> 00:37:17,690
equivalent in Great Britain the British

791
00:37:12,228 --> 00:37:20,389
UFO Research Association who have been

792
00:37:17,690 --> 00:37:22,970
subject to legal actions against them in

793
00:37:20,389 --> 00:37:25,068
the United Kingdom for various libel and

794
00:37:22,969 --> 00:37:27,768
character attacks on UFO researchers

795
00:37:25,068 --> 00:37:30,228
isn't this curious just like Richard was

796
00:37:27,768 --> 00:37:33,139
saying here earlier from the old school

797
00:37:30,228 --> 00:37:35,659
from those within who you believe are

798
00:37:33,139 --> 00:37:39,679
researching crop circles and yet are

799
00:37:35,659 --> 00:37:44,960
taking every step possible to have that

800
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:46,489
word UFO removed from the scene these

801
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,509
people and I'm going to show you

802
00:37:46,489 --> 00:37:53,568
evidence having lawsuits taken against

803
00:37:50,509 --> 00:37:55,489
them at the most serious find for the

804
00:37:53,568 --> 00:37:57,798
attacks placed in public on board and

805
00:37:55,489 --> 00:38:00,739
frightened of FS are flying saucer

806
00:37:57,798 --> 00:38:02,869
reviewed ex British diplomat Harry

807
00:38:00,739 --> 00:38:04,789
Harris a solicitor Great Britain very

808
00:38:02,869 --> 00:38:07,910
instrumental in behind-the-scenes very

809
00:38:04,789 --> 00:38:13,759
useful helpful to UFO researchers who

810
00:38:07,909 --> 00:38:17,929
wanted legal legal help Stanton Friedman

811
00:38:13,759 --> 00:38:19,969
in this country Pat Delgado my old mate

812
00:38:17,929 --> 00:38:26,298
who's back in hospital right at this

813
00:38:19,969 --> 00:38:28,219
moment and myself because we don't need

814
00:38:26,298 --> 00:38:29,869
to dredge this I just want I need to

815
00:38:28,219 --> 00:38:31,969
make the points we need to know where

816
00:38:29,869 --> 00:38:35,778
this is coming from so I'm going to read

817
00:38:31,969 --> 00:38:38,028
this to you dear sir this was to Paul

818
00:38:35,778 --> 00:38:39,528
for one of the names we have been

819
00:38:38,028 --> 00:38:41,119
instructed by Colin Andrews and I've

820
00:38:39,528 --> 00:38:42,528
taken my case because I don't want to

821
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:45,890
get into deep water on both people's

822
00:38:42,528 --> 00:38:47,989
cases I can stand by this who has handed

823
00:38:45,889 --> 00:38:50,989
to us a copy of your letter of the 4th

824
00:38:47,989 --> 00:38:53,179
of September 1988 to mist and ruffle you

825
00:38:50,989 --> 00:38:55,548
will know that namesake here in America

826
00:38:53,179 --> 00:38:56,949
our client does not wish to deny your

827
00:38:55,548 --> 00:38:58,659
rights to criticize his

828
00:38:56,949 --> 00:39:00,309
research into the phenomenon of circles

829
00:38:58,659 --> 00:39:03,608
in cornfields all the conclusions that

830
00:39:00,309 --> 00:39:05,588
years reached from that that yes that

831
00:39:03,608 --> 00:39:08,559
compliance reads from his research

832
00:39:05,588 --> 00:39:09,820
however there aren't passages in your

833
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:13,269
above letter which are clearly

834
00:39:09,820 --> 00:39:14,769
definitely in particular we reverse your

835
00:39:13,269 --> 00:39:17,320
allegation that our client has made

836
00:39:14,769 --> 00:39:19,900
claims about himself which were patently

837
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:22,450
untrue in other words and a liar that he

838
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:25,450
has lied they has been selective in his

839
00:39:22,449 --> 00:39:27,909
use of evidence that serious

840
00:39:25,449 --> 00:39:30,309
unless we receive information from you

841
00:39:27,909 --> 00:39:32,019
within seven days of the date here of

842
00:39:30,309 --> 00:39:33,909
that you have written to miss trouble

843
00:39:32,019 --> 00:39:36,099
retracting the above allegations and

844
00:39:33,909 --> 00:39:39,069
further that you undertake not to

845
00:39:36,099 --> 00:39:42,550
communicate any such allegation to third

846
00:39:39,070 --> 00:39:44,410
parties at any future future time we had

847
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:49,240
instructions to commence proceedings

848
00:39:44,409 --> 00:39:55,289
against you for liable without further

849
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:58,838
notice that's what came about briefly a

850
00:39:55,289 --> 00:40:00,429
fool to me personally by that man that

851
00:39:58,838 --> 00:40:04,420
has raised this in the first Parliament

852
00:40:00,429 --> 00:40:05,739
Paul for apologizing unreservedly well

853
00:40:04,420 --> 00:40:07,389
I'm not going to run this by bringing

854
00:40:05,739 --> 00:40:11,108
all that through it's here for the

855
00:40:07,389 --> 00:40:13,900
record he withdraws it he's very sorry i

856
00:40:11,108 --> 00:40:16,210
am who i said i am i am the chief

857
00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:18,730
electrical engineer thought it was for

858
00:40:16,210 --> 00:40:21,369
that part of central southern england

859
00:40:18,730 --> 00:40:23,289
and pat bell gathered he was a both his

860
00:40:21,369 --> 00:40:24,760
characters had said you never had a

861
00:40:23,289 --> 00:40:26,588
record of working for nasa

862
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,560
you saw the evidence there a bluebird

863
00:40:26,588 --> 00:40:32,769
and other space projects that pat was

864
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:36,789
refer to these individuals have an

865
00:40:32,769 --> 00:40:38,550
agenda to newspaper cuttings and will

866
00:40:36,789 --> 00:40:41,440
move on this is the heaviest part of the

867
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:44,318
presentation apologies to Stanton

868
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:47,530
Friedman this is from the Manchester

869
00:40:44,318 --> 00:40:49,269
Evening News and solicitor Harry Harris

870
00:40:47,530 --> 00:40:52,660
and there's another old series out of it

871
00:40:49,269 --> 00:40:54,280
at the bottom we could go infinitum I'll

872
00:40:52,659 --> 00:40:57,779
just read this piece there look when we

873
00:40:54,280 --> 00:41:00,700
move on so a splendid long diatribe

874
00:40:57,780 --> 00:41:03,790
against Friedman and Harris was compiled

875
00:41:00,699 --> 00:41:05,318
by befores directors investigations be

876
00:41:03,789 --> 00:41:07,420
very careful with all this stuff and

877
00:41:05,318 --> 00:41:09,099
fired off to a member of the staff

878
00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:11,980
perhaps other the Manchester Evening

879
00:41:09,099 --> 00:41:15,130
News and this newspaper Julie carried a

880
00:41:11,980 --> 00:41:18,579
big article about it all in October 28

881
00:41:15,130 --> 00:41:20,410
89 both the newspapers article and

882
00:41:18,579 --> 00:41:23,109
Randall's letter of which we have a copy

883
00:41:20,409 --> 00:41:25,719
are splendid stuff in the usual

884
00:41:23,108 --> 00:41:28,328
vitriolic style to which we are by now

885
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:31,239
accustomed as a result of the appearance

886
00:41:28,329 --> 00:41:33,490
of the newspaper article a rich was

887
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:36,608
jointly issued by mr. Stanton Friedman

888
00:41:33,489 --> 00:41:38,949
and Harry Harris and high court

889
00:41:36,608 --> 00:41:42,460
proceedings for defamation followed

890
00:41:38,949 --> 00:41:45,578
against the three named parties Jenny

891
00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:48,159
Randall's Beaufort and the Manchester

892
00:41:45,579 --> 00:41:49,869
Evening News apartments termination of

893
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:51,399
these high court proceedings the

894
00:41:49,869 --> 00:41:54,430
following statement was issued by the

895
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:58,599
newspaper we don't need to go there it's

896
00:41:54,429 --> 00:42:00,250
done I'm just saying to you you know

897
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:04,059
what I've said to you right we're back

898
00:42:00,250 --> 00:42:07,210
now to the yellow which represents the

899
00:42:04,059 --> 00:42:10,390
official report aircrew like everyone

900
00:42:07,210 --> 00:42:12,220
else are curious it is true and some

901
00:42:10,389 --> 00:42:16,150
clown routine flying training over

902
00:42:12,219 --> 00:42:18,489
circles that appear that they have heard

903
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:21,460
that have appeared and that in mind

904
00:42:18,489 --> 00:42:23,409
pages 73 and 82 of circular evidence

905
00:42:21,460 --> 00:42:25,929
which was packed Delgado and Colin

906
00:42:23,409 --> 00:42:27,969
Andrews first book shows army gazelle

907
00:42:25,929 --> 00:42:31,779
helicopters over the circles at Westbury

908
00:42:27,969 --> 00:42:34,358
Wiltshire in 1987 the photos page 74 and

909
00:42:31,780 --> 00:42:38,880
75 of which you're looking at there was

910
00:42:34,358 --> 00:42:44,108
taken by the aircrew in this hey copter

911
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:46,450
well I think by now we know it's a

912
00:42:44,108 --> 00:42:49,509
little bit more than a lot more because

913
00:42:46,449 --> 00:42:52,269
I was there I mean I was there this is

914
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:54,520
just this is not guys that are flying

915
00:42:52,269 --> 00:42:56,829
around in helicopters just snapping the

916
00:42:54,519 --> 00:43:00,068
occasional picture of which I am sure if

917
00:42:56,829 --> 00:43:02,440
that does happen to this because this

918
00:43:00,068 --> 00:43:08,469
this is really kind of getting to some

919
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:11,710
meat here the official report says I had

920
00:43:08,469 --> 00:43:14,828
to dispel that the media coverage of the

921
00:43:11,710 --> 00:43:17,470
issue was stifled by the use of a D

922
00:43:14,829 --> 00:43:20,590
notice what a D notice is Great Britain

923
00:43:17,469 --> 00:43:22,179
is a tool used by the British

924
00:43:20,590 --> 00:43:28,390
government Ministry of Defense in

925
00:43:22,179 --> 00:43:31,779
particular to stop the media in hard

926
00:43:28,389 --> 00:43:33,909
print radio or television at the

927
00:43:31,780 --> 00:43:37,420
basically at the throwing of a switch if

928
00:43:33,909 --> 00:43:40,329
they consider national security is at

929
00:43:37,420 --> 00:43:42,820
risk I think most people understand

930
00:43:40,329 --> 00:43:47,170
there has to be such at all but I am

931
00:43:42,820 --> 00:43:47,920
told through the report that this did

932
00:43:47,170 --> 00:43:50,619
not happen

933
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:54,090
they've never attempted to do that and

934
00:43:50,619 --> 00:43:56,589
in fact the D notice is no longer in use

935
00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:58,660
well what you're looking at there is a

936
00:43:56,590 --> 00:44:01,240
gain operation Blackburn with the

937
00:43:58,659 --> 00:44:02,500
British Army a small contingent helped

938
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,099
us on the site of this surveillance

939
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:09,059
operation in 1990 you see that vehicle

940
00:44:06,099 --> 00:44:12,429
there with a radio mast

941
00:44:09,059 --> 00:44:15,849
that's the media one of many media that

942
00:44:12,429 --> 00:44:17,319
attended one particular day when circles

943
00:44:15,849 --> 00:44:19,750
appeared below the surveillance

944
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,019
equipment and had something which we the

945
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:24,880
best we could sell through binoculars

946
00:44:22,019 --> 00:44:27,429
something odd some we couldn't make out

947
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,530
what it was in the center of these

948
00:44:27,429 --> 00:44:31,139
circles the surveillance cameras were

949
00:44:29,530 --> 00:44:35,170
there filming them

950
00:44:31,139 --> 00:44:38,710
the first Via Media to turn up to report

951
00:44:35,170 --> 00:44:40,180
on this was GW our radio at Swindon in

952
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:42,460
Wiltshire and you can see their

953
00:44:40,179 --> 00:44:45,639
high-rise mass has been pulled there

954
00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:48,280
they are going on air to transmit what

955
00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:54,940
they're looking at and they were stopped

956
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:58,060
a D notice was issued contrary to what

957
00:44:54,940 --> 00:45:01,030
you've been given here a D notice was

958
00:44:58,059 --> 00:45:06,210
issued to take off air one of the

959
00:45:01,030 --> 00:45:10,000
best-known television and radio Bremen

960
00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:13,659
personalities in Great Britain Dave

961
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,489
Barrett he was on air with gwr when they

962
00:45:13,659 --> 00:45:19,089
sent their vehicle home to cover this

963
00:45:15,489 --> 00:45:19,799
particular event and here is his letter

964
00:45:19,090 --> 00:45:22,900
to me

965
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:25,210
hi Colin I know live abroad so it's not

966
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:27,190
easy to contact me by phone but please

967
00:45:25,210 --> 00:45:29,710
feel free to email me if you need

968
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:32,159
anything else as I recall it was summer

969
00:45:29,710 --> 00:45:34,199
neurontin parents yes it was

970
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:35,759
the road a crop circle had been

971
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:38,038
discovered with some mysterious item

972
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,859
found in the center of it we set the

973
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:43,770
radio car out but were prevented from

974
00:45:40,858 --> 00:45:46,619
viewing it and a D notice stopped us

975
00:45:43,769 --> 00:45:53,309
reporting on it and it was when I was

976
00:45:46,619 --> 00:45:55,890
with gwr in Swindon D notice the

977
00:45:53,309 --> 00:45:58,048
government did not want you to see what

978
00:45:55,889 --> 00:46:00,568
was going on in those fields that they

979
00:45:58,048 --> 00:46:03,030
were very deeply involved in at that

980
00:46:00,568 --> 00:46:05,400
time and I would suggest the departments

981
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:08,548
that were not recording tune it and that

982
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:11,608
he knew nothing of I had to deny a

983
00:46:08,548 --> 00:46:13,710
further denial here I had to deny that

984
00:46:11,608 --> 00:46:15,808
the crash of a Harrier Jump Jet was

985
00:46:13,710 --> 00:46:18,119
caused by energies of crop circles and

986
00:46:15,809 --> 00:46:19,980
that they call spontaneous firing of the

987
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:21,930
pilots ejector seat this is an

988
00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:24,088
interesting case which incidentally I

989
00:46:21,929 --> 00:46:27,239
neither would suggest that the two are

990
00:46:24,088 --> 00:46:28,858
necessarily tied together but let's just

991
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:33,209
for the reasons here to keep an open

992
00:46:28,858 --> 00:46:36,269
mind it was a very unusual case the gi5

993
00:46:33,210 --> 00:46:38,309
jump jet that Britain's been so kind of

994
00:46:36,269 --> 00:46:41,219
well known for its extraordinary

995
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:43,950
aircraft was on a test flight from the

996
00:46:41,219 --> 00:46:46,318
southeast of the country across central

997
00:46:43,949 --> 00:46:47,338
southern checking in with Boston dan

998
00:46:46,318 --> 00:46:49,338
you've already heard that name

999
00:46:47,338 --> 00:46:51,778
top-secret air establishment here we are

1000
00:46:49,338 --> 00:46:54,058
you'll see it there it takes its course

1001
00:46:51,778 --> 00:46:56,190
from the right hand side of the rim

1002
00:46:54,059 --> 00:46:57,829
through the center to the left coming

1003
00:46:56,190 --> 00:47:01,470
from the southeast it's on a test flight

1004
00:46:57,829 --> 00:47:04,048
it checks in with on the the blue dot

1005
00:47:01,469 --> 00:47:05,909
there it's over flown five circles of

1006
00:47:04,048 --> 00:47:09,059
the identical times you saw this all

1007
00:47:05,909 --> 00:47:11,219
started with in 1985 the edge of them

1008
00:47:09,059 --> 00:47:13,140
reported on so on directly over the top

1009
00:47:11,219 --> 00:47:16,409
of those at the end of the runway at

1010
00:47:13,139 --> 00:47:18,900
Boscombe Dame it makes it's very large

1011
00:47:16,409 --> 00:47:22,670
radio transmission that poor guy and the

1012
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:25,710
pilot with Boston down on the purple e

1013
00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:28,260
that continues across the landscape to

1014
00:47:25,710 --> 00:47:34,548
the left just to the south of Stonehenge

1015
00:47:28,260 --> 00:47:37,039
by about four miles heading west

1016
00:47:34,548 --> 00:47:39,318
something happened

1017
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:42,979
it is there is speculation which I will

1018
00:47:39,318 --> 00:47:45,409
come to something happens over another

1019
00:47:42,978 --> 00:47:48,228
set of circles this time with rings and

1020
00:47:45,409 --> 00:47:52,868
the aircraft kicks left by a few degrees

1021
00:47:48,228 --> 00:47:55,688
and no contact with the pilot is lost a

1022
00:47:52,869 --> 00:47:59,568
American aircraft an SOS window

1023
00:47:55,688 --> 00:48:04,818
nationwide air wide grant a full sea

1024
00:47:59,568 --> 00:48:07,938
land search ensued and an American

1025
00:48:04,818 --> 00:48:10,668
aircraft came in and saw this aircraft

1026
00:48:07,938 --> 00:48:11,389
and shadowed it and found that the pilot

1027
00:48:10,668 --> 00:48:14,568
was missing

1028
00:48:11,389 --> 00:48:18,918
the Harrier was flying on the pilot was

1029
00:48:14,568 --> 00:48:20,989
gone and so it continued to fly until it

1030
00:48:18,918 --> 00:48:23,509
ran out of fuel and dumped into the

1031
00:48:20,989 --> 00:48:27,228
Atlantic Ocean many hundreds of miles

1032
00:48:23,509 --> 00:48:29,358
further down the road well this is my

1033
00:48:27,228 --> 00:48:32,659
only point is interesting the cases this

1034
00:48:29,358 --> 00:48:34,788
is I was interviewed by two of the

1035
00:48:32,659 --> 00:48:38,719
investigating investigating officials

1036
00:48:34,789 --> 00:48:40,640
into this inquiry simply because there

1037
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,668
were designs there they were no idea

1038
00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:46,578
what happened and they still do not and

1039
00:48:43,668 --> 00:48:48,588
my only question and not questioning it

1040
00:48:46,579 --> 00:48:52,278
I'm questioning her say the report is

1041
00:48:48,588 --> 00:48:55,188
that to deny it had any involvement when

1042
00:48:52,278 --> 00:48:59,449
the official verdict you'll see in red

1043
00:48:55,188 --> 00:49:01,998
there was was left open they there was

1044
00:48:59,449 --> 00:49:05,809
speculation that a small lamp had fallen

1045
00:49:01,998 --> 00:49:08,678
off the - they had activated the ejector

1046
00:49:05,809 --> 00:49:12,409
seat thrown the pilot through the canopy

1047
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:15,499
etc etc it may have been that we will

1048
00:49:12,409 --> 00:49:18,619
never know but to deny it when all

1049
00:49:15,498 --> 00:49:20,598
options are open there are energy is

1050
00:49:18,619 --> 00:49:22,640
however the speculative and craziness

1051
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:25,579
might be and I'm not suggesting that it

1052
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:28,489
it killed this guy I've got at all but

1053
00:49:25,579 --> 00:49:30,739
that aircraft happened to run cannons

1054
00:49:28,489 --> 00:49:33,259
align precisely on the alignments we've

1055
00:49:30,739 --> 00:49:35,329
seen in these circles for many years

1056
00:49:33,259 --> 00:49:38,989
some of us will call them ley lines

1057
00:49:35,329 --> 00:49:42,640
their alignments that roam across that

1058
00:49:38,989 --> 00:49:46,219
part of the world on which a lot of the

1059
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:50,629
simple designs continue to appear and he

1060
00:49:46,219 --> 00:49:53,250
came right onto line with it right

1061
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:55,800
so we're back we can scale it down a

1062
00:49:53,250 --> 00:49:58,530
little bit here this was a my first

1063
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:03,390
actual I had already correspond it up

1064
00:49:58,530 --> 00:50:04,950
through to the Queen to the Nicholas

1065
00:50:03,389 --> 00:50:08,129
Ridley Undersecretary of State in the

1066
00:50:04,949 --> 00:50:11,219
Thatcher cabinet but there was a lot of

1067
00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:14,789
a lot of internal work going on with my

1068
00:50:11,219 --> 00:50:17,219
Member of Parliament as you can see here

1069
00:50:14,789 --> 00:50:18,779
David Mitchell so David Mitchell this is

1070
00:50:17,219 --> 00:50:20,250
when we were looking still being denied

1071
00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:22,380
by the way everything that came out

1072
00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:24,329
other the official sources in England

1073
00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:26,039
through the media was that they're not

1074
00:50:24,329 --> 00:50:28,380
involved well I mean Here I am showing

1075
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:30,509
the brain the surplus now and then I'm

1076
00:50:28,380 --> 00:50:34,680
invited to show Prince Charles and Diana

1077
00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:36,359
around and it goes on and on and on but

1078
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:41,489
it isn't put out there from what it's

1079
00:50:36,358 --> 00:50:43,769
worth so here we go I don't think we

1080
00:50:41,489 --> 00:50:46,858
need to read it you can and it's on my

1081
00:50:43,769 --> 00:50:48,449
website for anybody wants to this is my

1082
00:50:46,858 --> 00:50:50,519
member of parliament saying he was glad

1083
00:50:48,449 --> 00:50:51,989
to to look around the circles it gives

1084
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:54,750
them a first-hand knowledge of the

1085
00:50:51,989 --> 00:50:56,750
lodging that some people are referring

1086
00:50:54,750 --> 00:50:59,940
to the meteorological possibilities

1087
00:50:56,750 --> 00:51:03,179
versus the some what more exotic

1088
00:50:59,940 --> 00:51:08,700
possibilities of which I was probably

1089
00:51:03,179 --> 00:51:10,649
the main proponent and again David

1090
00:51:08,699 --> 00:51:12,328
Mitchell is saying thank you : for

1091
00:51:10,650 --> 00:51:14,460
showing me this this is now very clear

1092
00:51:12,329 --> 00:51:18,089
we need to take this up and I'll pursue

1093
00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:23,818
it as far as I need to go and so this is

1094
00:51:18,088 --> 00:51:26,219
where we come to as promised I have no

1095
00:51:23,818 --> 00:51:28,250
been to see David Trippier Minister of

1096
00:51:26,219 --> 00:51:30,358
the state of the Department of sorry

1097
00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:31,920
Minister of State at the Department of

1098
00:51:30,358 --> 00:51:33,960
the Environment and I've had a useful

1099
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,059
discussion with him and his chief

1100
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,440
scientific adviser I must say that over

1101
00:51:36,059 --> 00:51:39,540
the passage of time was to have

1102
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,280
investigated this far you have managed

1103
00:51:39,539 --> 00:51:43,318
to do so in such a responsible way that

1104
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,329
the whole matter is now being viewed in

1105
00:51:43,318 --> 00:51:47,548
a much more serious and scientifically

1106
00:51:45,329 --> 00:51:49,530
interesting way having discussed it with

1107
00:51:47,548 --> 00:51:52,650
the minister he has agreed that an

1108
00:51:49,530 --> 00:51:54,390
approach should be made to the National

1109
00:51:52,650 --> 00:51:55,798
Environmental Research Council that's

1110
00:51:54,389 --> 00:51:57,690
the department within the government to

1111
00:51:55,798 --> 00:51:59,969
see if they will take an official

1112
00:51:57,690 --> 00:52:01,380
interest in what is going on and support

1113
00:51:59,969 --> 00:52:03,329
some further research

1114
00:52:01,380 --> 00:52:05,789
as you know and he goes on to say it's

1115
00:52:03,329 --> 00:52:10,489
really going to be up to them and what

1116
00:52:05,789 --> 00:52:11,750
kind of serious science can support this

1117
00:52:10,489 --> 00:52:15,089
family

1118
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:17,039
Sir David Mitchell comes back to me and

1119
00:52:15,090 --> 00:52:19,289
says finally I approach for Geoffrey

1120
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:21,840
Howe now we're up to Deputy Prime

1121
00:52:19,289 --> 00:52:25,110
Minister okay this is not anything that

1122
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:26,850
isn't happening such as Sir Geoffrey

1123
00:52:25,110 --> 00:52:28,800
Howe Deputy Prime Minister have asked

1124
00:52:26,849 --> 00:52:30,539
him to indicate which ministers should

1125
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,620
have the responsibility and pointed me

1126
00:52:30,539 --> 00:52:33,509
in the direction of the Department of

1127
00:52:31,619 --> 00:52:35,880
the Environment from whom I am again

1128
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:37,790
getting unsatisfactory responses which

1129
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:41,880
has led me to ask to see the minister

1130
00:52:37,789 --> 00:52:45,269
personally the Queen head of state in

1131
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:47,760
the United Kingdom and Prime Minister

1132
00:52:45,269 --> 00:52:50,360
are a fatter the Duke of Edinburgh is

1133
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,980
seen below this is no incidentally an

1134
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,620
extremely sensitive situation in Great

1135
00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:59,340
Britain and I will of course and

1136
00:52:55,619 --> 00:53:03,359
respecting my homeland be making my way

1137
00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:04,710
through this with respect and care from

1138
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,349
just stating some facts

1139
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:09,510
I had to deny allegations this is the

1140
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:11,489
official report prevent - I had to deny

1141
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:12,870
allegations that the Queen and Prime

1142
00:53:11,489 --> 00:53:16,439
Minister Thatcher had expressed interest

1143
00:53:12,869 --> 00:53:18,150
in the phenomenon and that very various

1144
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,099
high-level meetings were taking place to

1145
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:21,809
consider for subject well I think you've

1146
00:53:20,099 --> 00:53:25,650
already seen some but we got to go step

1147
00:53:21,809 --> 00:53:29,400
further here this is a letter to me from

1148
00:53:25,650 --> 00:53:33,000
the Queen written by Lloyd Julianne

1149
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:36,660
Lloyd who is her land agent I that was

1150
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:39,769
what sorry what have I done whatever

1151
00:53:36,659 --> 00:53:44,359
happens now this is my fault

1152
00:53:39,769 --> 00:53:44,360
sorry this is not my computers no I'm

1153
00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:50,879
okay I think we're back on course just

1154
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,670
coming in closer so that you can see it

1155
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,680
this is to me thank you for your letter

1156
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:59,519
of a 2nd of May which has been shown to

1157
00:53:55,679 --> 00:54:01,949
the Queen Her Majesty just look look at

1158
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:05,009
this Her Majesty has taken an interest

1159
00:54:01,949 --> 00:54:08,069
in the mysterious crop circles for some

1160
00:54:05,010 --> 00:54:10,350
time and was subsequently sad to hear

1161
00:54:08,070 --> 00:54:13,710
and she goes on that's of a more

1162
00:54:10,349 --> 00:54:15,420
personal thing with a situation she fear

1163
00:54:13,710 --> 00:54:18,869
evidence the first book ever written on

1164
00:54:15,420 --> 00:54:22,559
crop circles was selected specifically

1165
00:54:18,869 --> 00:54:25,889
for the royal reading list this is the

1166
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:27,659
queen's summer reading list in 1989

1167
00:54:25,889 --> 00:54:30,029
such as the level of interest in the

1168
00:54:27,659 --> 00:54:33,440
royal household the duke of edinburgh

1169
00:54:30,030 --> 00:54:35,970
writes to my colleague at dog Ireland

1170
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,559
the Duke of Edinburgh has asked me to

1171
00:54:35,969 --> 00:54:40,199
write and thank you for your letter of

1172
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:41,759
the 28th of October and also for sending

1173
00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:44,009
His Royal Highness a copy of your

1174
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,590
newsletter crop circles which we were

1175
00:54:44,010 --> 00:54:48,330
publishing a short time ago Prince

1176
00:54:46,590 --> 00:54:50,190
Philip is grateful for your thought in

1177
00:54:48,329 --> 00:54:53,159
sending it and would like to take out

1178
00:54:50,190 --> 00:54:55,800
it's always makes me smile an annual

1179
00:54:53,159 --> 00:55:00,629
subscription for the newsletter could

1180
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:03,030
you be less in June chorus that you

1181
00:55:00,630 --> 00:55:04,860
prevent and brought to myself has asked

1182
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:07,110
me to write to thank you for your letter

1183
00:55:04,860 --> 00:55:08,970
of the 23rd of October which His Royal

1184
00:55:07,110 --> 00:55:10,829
Highness was most interested to read

1185
00:55:08,969 --> 00:55:13,169
Prince Philip would certainly like you

1186
00:55:10,829 --> 00:55:17,340
to update him with significant

1187
00:55:13,170 --> 00:55:20,039
developments on the circles fake it this

1188
00:55:17,340 --> 00:55:23,100
is the official first six pounds which

1189
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:25,579
is $12 for a subscription of the

1190
00:55:23,099 --> 00:55:29,819
newsletter from the soup of Edinburgh

1191
00:55:25,579 --> 00:55:31,469
and this one I have to be again rather

1192
00:55:29,820 --> 00:55:32,789
careful as you can see when Stanton

1193
00:55:31,469 --> 00:55:34,319
Friedman you know gets up with those

1194
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:37,259
letters of his and there's all that

1195
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:40,080
black dough staff all over it

1196
00:55:37,260 --> 00:55:42,840
I'm just paid to do the same thing I was

1197
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:45,299
instructed from Great Britain to remove

1198
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:50,010
immediately a document from this

1199
00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:51,840
presentation and from my website one

1200
00:55:50,010 --> 00:55:54,390
document of many that I would like you

1201
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,579
to have seen at which of course I have

1202
00:55:54,389 --> 00:55:59,500
respected

1203
00:55:56,579 --> 00:56:01,329
legal action will be taken if the entire

1204
00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:03,480
contents of this letter are shown in

1205
00:56:01,329 --> 00:56:08,858
public remove from your website

1206
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:10,179
immediately I sniffed that out and I'm

1207
00:56:08,858 --> 00:56:12,009
about just to read this little piece

1208
00:56:10,179 --> 00:56:14,980
because this is the piece actually

1209
00:56:12,010 --> 00:56:17,440
anyway it's all we feel more employment

1210
00:56:14,980 --> 00:56:18,269
to know I am replying to your letter to

1211
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:22,269
the Queen

1212
00:56:18,269 --> 00:56:23,949
about the circles phenomenon since I

1213
00:56:22,269 --> 00:56:25,719
have been taking a rather particular

1214
00:56:23,949 --> 00:56:28,480
interest in the subject

1215
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:31,059
we were both that is the Queen and I we

1216
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:33,760
were both fascinated by something on

1217
00:56:31,059 --> 00:56:35,320
Monday to talk about the account of thee

1218
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:39,910
which is something else other like to

1219
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:42,789
talk back here's another one a different

1220
00:56:39,909 --> 00:56:45,190
source so cleanse those mind this is

1221
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:48,039
somebody else I was staying with my

1222
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:50,108
uncle who I'm a model a to tell you this

1223
00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:53,259
weekend and while I was skating around

1224
00:56:50,108 --> 00:56:56,348
in his study my eyes alighted upon a

1225
00:56:53,260 --> 00:56:58,599
mask and copy of my first book circular

1226
00:56:56,349 --> 00:57:02,019
evidence I'm not allowed to talk about

1227
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:03,430
that electronics business and wondering

1228
00:57:02,019 --> 00:57:06,130
whether it was his interest in

1229
00:57:03,429 --> 00:57:08,949
electronics or agriculture that induced

1230
00:57:06,130 --> 00:57:11,920
him to buy it to buy the book I picked

1231
00:57:08,949 --> 00:57:14,529
it up a letter fell out addressed to

1232
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:17,650
modeling to say from Prince Phillip

1233
00:57:14,530 --> 00:57:19,330
saying something along the lines thought

1234
00:57:17,650 --> 00:57:21,670
you might be interested to see this if

1235
00:57:19,329 --> 00:57:24,279
it's a hoax he's referring to crop

1236
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:27,338
circles it is an elaborate in the

1237
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:30,089
extreme and I am inclined to believe it

1238
00:57:27,338 --> 00:57:33,489
is due to some kind of invisible force

1239
00:57:30,088 --> 00:57:35,909
he then said he'd never been able to

1240
00:57:33,489 --> 00:57:38,379
entirely doesn't dismiss the uri geller

1241
00:57:35,909 --> 00:57:41,019
phenomenon and i have spent time but get

1242
00:57:38,380 --> 00:57:44,230
it by the way on that and could the two

1243
00:57:41,019 --> 00:57:46,480
have anything in common that was a baby

1244
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:51,579
i just thought you might like to know

1245
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:53,588
that Prime Minister Thatcher the letters

1246
00:57:51,579 --> 00:57:56,289
there and there are others that you can

1247
00:57:53,588 --> 00:57:58,389
view I am afraid it is not possible for

1248
00:57:56,289 --> 00:57:59,568
the Prime Minister to comment on this

1249
00:57:58,389 --> 00:58:01,429
publication

1250
00:57:59,568 --> 00:58:04,400
your evidence although I am sure she

1251
00:58:01,429 --> 00:58:06,548
will note it with interest however I

1252
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:10,579
will pass it to the Ministry of Defense

1253
00:58:06,548 --> 00:58:12,949
for information these were the first

1254
00:58:10,579 --> 00:58:14,660
pages of the official report that went

1255
00:58:12,949 --> 00:58:18,068
to the cabinet in the Margaret faction

1256
00:58:14,659 --> 00:58:22,038
of government of which I was the author

1257
00:58:18,068 --> 00:58:24,469
here there were meetings taking place

1258
00:58:22,039 --> 00:58:26,539
there was information being considered

1259
00:58:24,469 --> 00:58:29,778
and he was being considered as to how

1260
00:58:26,539 --> 00:58:32,349
far and with what funds should be placed

1261
00:58:29,778 --> 00:58:34,849
upon an official investigation

1262
00:58:32,349 --> 00:58:36,650
incidentally some of the photographs

1263
00:58:34,849 --> 00:58:38,930
you're seeing there are more pages to

1264
00:58:36,650 --> 00:58:41,028
this report were actually taken from the

1265
00:58:38,929 --> 00:58:42,348
aircraft that it was denied that was up

1266
00:58:41,028 --> 00:58:45,170
there showing the interest that they

1267
00:58:42,349 --> 00:58:47,298
were not that they were not involved in

1268
00:58:45,170 --> 00:58:51,139
so those are in other words military

1269
00:58:47,298 --> 00:58:53,659
photographs look letter to Lord Dahl

1270
00:58:51,139 --> 00:58:55,670
written for column Andrews from Nicholas

1271
00:58:53,659 --> 00:58:58,009
Ridley the Secretary of State in my

1272
00:58:55,670 --> 00:59:00,769
prime minister mark Thatcher's cabinet

1273
00:58:58,009 --> 00:59:03,798
dear Tony this is to be passed on to me

1274
00:59:00,768 --> 00:59:05,659
I promise to report to you anything that

1275
00:59:03,798 --> 00:59:08,389
my officials could turn out on the

1276
00:59:05,659 --> 00:59:10,098
mysterious circles and cornfields as it

1277
00:59:08,389 --> 00:59:13,098
happens a recent issue of the magazine

1278
00:59:10,099 --> 00:59:15,410
weather reports a possible theory I

1279
00:59:13,099 --> 00:59:18,680
attach a copy of the article for which

1280
00:59:15,409 --> 00:59:21,048
you may find interesting the art of the

1281
00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:23,838
article argues that the effect can be

1282
00:59:21,048 --> 00:59:27,338
explained as a meteorological phenomenon

1283
00:59:23,838 --> 00:59:30,739
in part associated with local topology

1284
00:59:27,338 --> 00:59:33,259
my chief scientist is rather skeptical

1285
00:59:30,739 --> 00:59:36,199
of the exact explanation although

1286
00:59:33,259 --> 00:59:38,719
interestingly elated to move forward

1287
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:40,639
into official sources as being the

1288
00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:42,559
explanation the British government's

1289
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:45,920
official as at far as I understand it

1290
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:50,739
still is that the real kind part of this

1291
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:53,749
phenomena is actually meteorological and

1292
00:59:50,739 --> 00:59:56,150
he continues and ends here I believe

1293
00:59:53,748 --> 00:59:59,598
this again is that same letter being

1294
00:59:56,150 --> 01:00:01,690
forwarded to me from that source but

1295
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:03,920
believes the argument has some promise

1296
01:00:01,690 --> 01:00:06,199
hopefully there will be a lively

1297
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,999
discussion in subsequent issues in the

1298
01:00:06,199 --> 01:00:10,190
report that you sent me

1299
01:00:07,998 --> 01:00:12,230
mr. Andrews has promises

1300
01:00:10,190 --> 01:00:15,740
actual investment to look at a number of

1301
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:17,000
other more exotic explanations but it

1302
01:00:15,739 --> 01:00:19,399
might be one advise to look at the

1303
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,349
possibility of a natural explanation and

1304
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,740
this is the one that has gone forward

1305
01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:26,569
into the official documentation okay

1306
01:00:24,739 --> 01:00:28,579
we're going to light this up thank you

1307
01:00:26,570 --> 01:00:30,019
very much we're right on cue for Part C

1308
01:00:28,579 --> 01:00:32,329
which is going to come very fast out

1309
01:00:30,019 --> 01:00:34,309
here here and I just end with the last

1310
01:00:32,329 --> 01:00:37,340
statement in that official report of

1311
01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:39,259
necks in conclusion he says I hope this

1312
01:00:37,340 --> 01:00:41,180
article has clarified the position

1313
01:00:39,260 --> 01:00:44,030
concerning the official involvement in

1314
01:00:41,179 --> 01:00:54,789
the crop circle mystery well I hope now

1315
01:00:44,030 --> 01:00:54,790
it has part to conscious circles

1316
01:01:03,869 --> 01:01:10,400
reference to the official file on crop

1317
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:15,528
circles now being enclosed by the mo D

1318
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:20,369
I'm about to show you why I believe that

1319
01:01:15,528 --> 01:01:22,048
if it has and I believe that it has some

1320
01:01:20,369 --> 01:01:24,778
other departments somewhere

1321
01:01:22,048 --> 01:01:27,059
much like the Avery CIA undercover

1322
01:01:24,778 --> 01:01:30,028
operation in this country should be

1323
01:01:27,059 --> 01:01:34,579
going on these are some of the reasons

1324
01:01:30,028 --> 01:01:37,679
why research must continue

1325
01:01:34,579 --> 01:01:39,240
well the 24th of August this was not the

1326
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:41,969
first but a number of personal

1327
01:01:39,239 --> 01:01:45,298
experiences that I witnessed myself

1328
01:01:41,969 --> 01:01:47,899
that leaves me absolutely not wondering

1329
01:01:45,298 --> 01:01:51,409
but knowing there is an extremely

1330
01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:55,200
extraordinary component to this mystery

1331
01:01:51,409 --> 01:01:57,838
well the 24th for was 1986 I was in a

1332
01:01:55,199 --> 01:02:01,919
light aircraft with bus detailer you can

1333
01:01:57,838 --> 01:02:05,068
see just here flying over chest but head

1334
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,960
in Hampshire bus Lee looked to me and he

1335
01:02:05,068 --> 01:02:09,869
said and we've been talking about this

1336
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:12,239
trip up until just well one day ago when

1337
01:02:09,869 --> 01:02:14,660
I was preparing this talking against

1338
01:02:12,239 --> 01:02:17,519
busty every other day he said to me

1339
01:02:14,659 --> 01:02:19,969
would it be something Colin to get every

1340
01:02:17,518 --> 01:02:26,129
circle every design we've seen before

1341
01:02:19,969 --> 01:02:28,768
overlaid in 1:1 pattern what you're

1342
01:02:26,130 --> 01:02:31,380
looking at is all we had seen up to that

1343
01:02:28,768 --> 01:02:34,469
time many of these repeater simple

1344
01:02:31,380 --> 01:02:36,150
circles would repeat many signs early 86

1345
01:02:34,469 --> 01:02:39,268
to the first circle with a ring repeated

1346
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:40,980
many times the bottom right hand side 85

1347
01:02:39,268 --> 01:02:43,679
this was the edge from investigation

1348
01:02:40,980 --> 01:02:47,039
repeated many times and now across the

1349
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:50,879
world many times 3 in a straight light -

1350
01:02:47,039 --> 01:02:57,210
but mostly single circles simple designs

1351
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:59,700
the following day right there just where

1352
01:02:57,210 --> 01:03:01,528
the aircraft was when he said it below

1353
01:02:59,699 --> 01:03:03,989
his aircraft with Madame owner Fowler

1354
01:03:01,528 --> 01:03:06,389
from staining in his aircraft was

1355
01:03:03,989 --> 01:03:10,528
everything we had ever seen overlaid

1356
01:03:06,389 --> 01:03:13,108
just as he had said rusty Taylor did not

1357
01:03:10,528 --> 01:03:13,460
make that that design I did not make

1358
01:03:13,108 --> 01:03:16,159
that

1359
01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:20,210
design but there are its no one can

1360
01:03:16,159 --> 01:03:24,649
laugh at this of mic I mean that's real

1361
01:03:20,210 --> 01:03:26,510
coincidental that's like how many times

1362
01:03:24,650 --> 01:03:29,599
winning the lotto here this is like

1363
01:03:26,510 --> 01:03:32,080
every pattern or one not to all the

1364
01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:34,789
patterns we had seen over those years

1365
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:37,480
overlaid into exactly what he has worked

1366
01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:43,000
but not just that below the aircraft

1367
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:45,820
where he said it the day before wow

1368
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:49,940
that's weird

1369
01:03:45,820 --> 01:03:53,599
well in 1987 this is a ring reported

1370
01:03:49,940 --> 01:03:55,130
from a pilot flight flying over we

1371
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:58,420
investigated we did all the things we

1372
01:03:55,130 --> 01:04:00,530
usually do I went back later alone

1373
01:03:58,420 --> 01:04:02,570
reasons we don't need to talk about I

1374
01:04:00,530 --> 01:04:06,500
went back for a measurement and I stood

1375
01:04:02,570 --> 01:04:08,780
alone and I prayed now I'm not I'm not I

1376
01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:12,588
don't go to church regularly I'm not you

1377
01:04:08,780 --> 01:04:14,630
know I'm not any it's not a center of my

1378
01:04:12,588 --> 01:04:16,579
my being but I believe in something

1379
01:04:14,630 --> 01:04:19,880
beyond I believe in something else out

1380
01:04:16,579 --> 01:04:23,989
there yes I did but I prayed and I said

1381
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:27,858
please God give me a clue that's what is

1382
01:04:23,989 --> 01:04:30,769
happening I heard a sound within seven

1383
01:04:27,858 --> 01:04:33,250
feet of where I was stood alone as I

1384
01:04:30,769 --> 01:04:36,108
still have my hands together suddenly

1385
01:04:33,250 --> 01:04:38,449
there's this sound a sound you're going

1386
01:04:36,108 --> 01:04:39,769
to hear a few times in the next few

1387
01:04:38,449 --> 01:04:42,079
minutes I think I've got about ten

1388
01:04:39,769 --> 01:04:44,300
minutes I believe metro you're going to

1389
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:45,799
hear this sound it's come up time and

1390
01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:51,070
time again

1391
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:53,539
same side and that reacted to my force

1392
01:04:51,070 --> 01:04:55,519
believe it or not I'm not here to

1393
01:04:53,539 --> 01:04:59,469
convince you this is why I am still

1394
01:04:55,519 --> 01:05:02,269
stood in front of you 26 years later

1395
01:04:59,469 --> 01:05:05,509
1988 south of my town in Andover

1396
01:05:02,269 --> 01:05:07,369
Hampshire a circle with two rates well

1397
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:10,250
you see there it is we went there we

1398
01:05:07,369 --> 01:05:12,800
investigated it we went huh that's where

1399
01:05:10,250 --> 01:05:15,800
I lived in Andover just up there in

1400
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:19,160
Hampshire this particular night with my

1401
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:22,630
marriage in batter tattles I'm laid on

1402
01:05:19,159 --> 01:05:22,629
the bed and meditating

1403
01:05:22,980 --> 01:05:30,679
and I thought again in my head I know

1404
01:05:27,659 --> 01:05:32,759
this I just I remember so vividly I

1405
01:05:30,679 --> 01:05:34,289
tried to think what pattern they have

1406
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:37,140
not appeared before knowing what had

1407
01:05:34,289 --> 01:05:38,849
happened with busty I follow this

1408
01:05:37,139 --> 01:05:41,730
pattern I thought well we've never seen

1409
01:05:38,849 --> 01:05:44,250
a Celtic cross and I prayed I don't I

1410
01:05:41,730 --> 01:05:46,349
mean it was just bizarre with the sand I

1411
01:05:44,250 --> 01:05:48,210
prayed for this design but you could see

1412
01:05:46,349 --> 01:05:50,280
up over here that has never been seen in

1413
01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:53,608
the fields anywhere and if anybody knows

1414
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:55,920
of it please let us know not anywhere in

1415
01:05:53,608 --> 01:05:58,529
fact in 1988 at that appear anyone on

1416
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:03,990
our planet I pray for it and I said

1417
01:05:58,530 --> 01:06:06,599
that's close to my home as possible that

1418
01:06:03,989 --> 01:06:07,858
was the same right that's the circle of

1419
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:10,859
the two rings that you just saw the

1420
01:06:07,858 --> 01:06:13,949
picture no something else has arrived

1421
01:06:10,858 --> 01:06:16,019
next to it it's exactly the pattern that

1422
01:06:13,949 --> 01:06:18,929
I pray for and you see that field

1423
01:06:16,019 --> 01:06:22,170
boundary that's the closest cereal crop

1424
01:06:18,929 --> 01:06:24,179
to my home that was still available for

1425
01:06:22,170 --> 01:06:27,809
whatever is going on to record its

1426
01:06:24,179 --> 01:06:31,529
artwork that is a fact

1427
01:06:27,809 --> 01:06:33,359
and in addition right down here it might

1428
01:06:31,530 --> 01:06:36,450
seem trivial a minor point I don't think

1429
01:06:33,358 --> 01:06:38,519
it is is that in the detail the grain

1430
01:06:36,449 --> 01:06:41,489
detail which we are of course got back

1431
01:06:38,519 --> 01:06:44,639
to have a look at were the very details

1432
01:06:41,489 --> 01:06:47,129
that permitted us scientifically in hard

1433
01:06:44,639 --> 01:06:50,308
physical evidence to counter the Doug

1434
01:06:47,130 --> 01:06:52,440
and Dave claim of 1990 when they claim

1435
01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:54,960
to have made everything we knew we had

1436
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:57,298
something in that design that appeared

1437
01:06:54,960 --> 01:07:00,510
mysteriously that night to counter it

1438
01:06:57,298 --> 01:07:02,548
and we did we can go into that question

1439
01:07:00,510 --> 01:07:04,049
fine if you cut if you like very quickly

1440
01:07:02,548 --> 01:07:05,429
now because we're really running down I

1441
01:07:04,048 --> 01:07:08,519
know I've got a little bit here to show

1442
01:07:05,429 --> 01:07:11,669
you this is the document I'm not allowed

1443
01:07:08,519 --> 01:07:14,009
to show you and I still have not shown

1444
01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:16,108
you in its full entirety that's an

1445
01:07:14,010 --> 01:07:18,569
official police photograph by Hampshire

1446
01:07:16,108 --> 01:07:21,869
that's the civilian column Andrews down

1447
01:07:18,568 --> 01:07:25,139
there in the blue motor car something

1448
01:07:21,869 --> 01:07:27,660
very strange indeed if you think you've

1449
01:07:25,139 --> 01:07:29,190
just heard it this I know I was with

1450
01:07:27,659 --> 01:07:31,259
Edgar Mitchell last weekend we were

1451
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:35,860
presenting it the Institute in New York

1452
01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:40,060
and I do realize this that when the

1453
01:07:35,860 --> 01:07:42,800
the reality in which we all kind of

1454
01:07:40,059 --> 01:07:45,349
carve out for ourselves you know we with

1455
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:48,380
our own rationale for reality is

1456
01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:50,839
individual and I know that when you hear

1457
01:07:48,380 --> 01:07:53,180
the sound and then a crop circle appears

1458
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,950
and then this and that it's kind of

1459
01:07:53,179 --> 01:07:57,199
really challenged and there comes a

1460
01:07:54,949 --> 01:07:59,869
point where you can just simply turn it

1461
01:07:57,199 --> 01:08:02,239
off because it's the they're trying to

1462
01:07:59,869 --> 01:08:04,400
kind of rationalized or and I'm going to

1463
01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:07,009
be doing a little bit of that so here

1464
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,720
goes and I know that my credibility is

1465
01:08:07,010 --> 01:08:11,420
on the line if this is where we need to

1466
01:08:08,719 --> 01:08:14,239
go with this this really basically is

1467
01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:17,300
why I'm back this is what happened and

1468
01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:19,489
this is why for reasons I cannot tell

1469
01:08:17,300 --> 01:08:24,230
you this lever has been withdrawn from

1470
01:08:19,489 --> 01:08:27,829
the internet this is the team that was

1471
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:29,599
there that was sat in the larger of the

1472
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:32,689
circles at the left this is also a

1473
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,910
Hampshire police photograph here we

1474
01:08:32,689 --> 01:08:38,179
after operation white crow which was

1475
01:08:34,909 --> 01:08:40,159
also a surveillance operation we this

1476
01:08:38,180 --> 01:08:41,630
team here that you're seeing plus three

1477
01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:43,099
photographs I'm afraid I couldn't get to

1478
01:08:41,630 --> 01:08:45,680
supply there's not a problem I just

1479
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:48,020
didn't have time to get it for you this

1480
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,670
is the team that went there and we've

1481
01:08:48,020 --> 01:08:51,470
sat in that circle just after midnight

1482
01:08:49,670 --> 01:08:53,770
surveillance operation is winding down

1483
01:08:51,470 --> 01:08:56,570
we had nothing to show for it basically

1484
01:08:53,770 --> 01:09:00,380
and we sat there now one of these

1485
01:08:56,569 --> 01:09:02,179
peoples is Riza called over over the far

1486
01:09:00,380 --> 01:09:04,060
right-hand side there is known in Great

1487
01:09:02,180 --> 01:09:08,960
Britain she's been researched many times

1488
01:09:04,060 --> 01:09:10,820
by the psychic research people there for

1489
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,730
manifestations of all kinds I mean she's

1490
01:09:10,819 --> 01:09:15,529
got an extraordinary kind of record she

1491
01:09:13,729 --> 01:09:17,209
was one of them like she had asked if

1492
01:09:15,529 --> 01:09:19,069
she could come in and we were happy to

1493
01:09:17,210 --> 01:09:20,630
have her aboard I mention it because it

1494
01:09:19,069 --> 01:09:24,619
might be relevant I don't know

1495
01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:27,529
so we're there just after midnight my

1496
01:09:24,619 --> 01:09:29,720
old friend turned out the sound that you

1497
01:09:27,529 --> 01:09:33,109
are about to hear that has been heard

1498
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:35,990
many very bizarre circumstances and it

1499
01:09:33,109 --> 01:09:39,710
did some strange things it came in from

1500
01:09:35,989 --> 01:09:43,550
the east it moved it went around the

1501
01:09:39,710 --> 01:09:45,980
group of us as if knowing precisely we

1502
01:09:43,550 --> 01:09:47,300
were there we kind of huddled in because

1503
01:09:45,979 --> 01:09:50,299
it you'll hear the

1504
01:09:47,300 --> 01:09:52,820
is a broad bazaar Electric static

1505
01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:54,949
crackling kind of saying and we kind of

1506
01:09:52,819 --> 01:09:57,859
hustle they're like children like what

1507
01:09:54,949 --> 01:10:00,260
the hell is going on and it's buzzing

1508
01:09:57,859 --> 01:10:03,769
around us stereophonic Lee I've got one

1509
01:10:00,260 --> 01:10:05,810
bad ear wasn't so fat then it is now but

1510
01:10:03,770 --> 01:10:07,580
the cereal Faunus was still very very

1511
01:10:05,810 --> 01:10:09,470
relevant rather it wasn't buzzing around

1512
01:10:07,579 --> 01:10:11,569
us and then it came back and its class

1513
01:10:09,470 --> 01:10:13,039
stopped over there and we're all

1514
01:10:11,569 --> 01:10:15,349
watching it all of us are witness to

1515
01:10:13,039 --> 01:10:17,600
this it's stopped there there's a

1516
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:20,600
dramatic temperature drop we all felt

1517
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:22,400
that we had a weather station on site we

1518
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,650
had a meteorologist head of the tornado

1519
01:10:22,399 --> 01:10:27,710
storm research organization dr. Chan's

1520
01:10:24,649 --> 01:10:30,170
meeting only he was not in that circle

1521
01:10:27,710 --> 01:10:32,630
that night he was responsible for the

1522
01:10:30,170 --> 01:10:34,730
weather station confirming as all this

1523
01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:37,270
is going on the temperature took a

1524
01:10:34,729 --> 01:10:40,609
nosedive the barometric or pressure

1525
01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:44,560
atmospheric pressure dropped off the

1526
01:10:40,609 --> 01:10:47,719
chart same time and this sound is

1527
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:49,070
interacting with us and then something

1528
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:52,250
which I have never witnessed in my life

1529
01:10:49,069 --> 01:10:54,049
I probably never will again and the man

1530
01:10:52,250 --> 01:10:57,979
is in hospital right now who is my

1531
01:10:54,050 --> 01:10:59,449
witness Pappagallo went up to that sound

1532
01:10:57,979 --> 01:11:02,779
as the rest of us were clustered

1533
01:10:59,449 --> 01:11:04,970
together and he literally went backwards

1534
01:11:02,779 --> 01:11:08,389
at an angle which he should have fallen

1535
01:11:04,970 --> 01:11:11,750
about 45 degrees and was dragged back

1536
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:14,240
towards the sound he put his hand out to

1537
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:16,670
me like this his face was like and he

1538
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:18,199
said literary calling calling and I went

1539
01:11:16,670 --> 01:11:21,199
across the circle witnessed by these

1540
01:11:18,199 --> 01:11:22,729
other people got a whole room and the

1541
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:25,309
both of us were dragged back towards the

1542
01:11:22,729 --> 01:11:27,109
same until I made every effort not

1543
01:11:25,310 --> 01:11:29,960
knowing what in the world was happening

1544
01:11:27,109 --> 01:11:32,449
pulled him physically it was like

1545
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:37,039
pulling a bubble two bubbles apart it's

1546
01:11:32,449 --> 01:11:39,800
like and we were free we came back to

1547
01:11:37,039 --> 01:11:42,109
the others sand moved back to the east

1548
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:45,860
but stayed there we could hear it for

1549
01:11:42,109 --> 01:11:47,989
some several hours and recorded it

1550
01:11:45,859 --> 01:11:49,789
there's more to be said about that on on

1551
01:11:47,989 --> 01:11:51,199
to five minutes so I'm going to run it

1552
01:11:49,789 --> 01:11:54,109
right through now this is the sound

1553
01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:57,880
being analyzed many times as 5.2

1554
01:11:54,109 --> 01:11:57,880
kilohertz in order frequency

1555
01:12:01,090 --> 01:12:08,179
yes sorry I'm just not conversant with

1556
01:12:03,559 --> 01:12:09,920
this knives here we go these are just

1557
01:12:08,179 --> 01:12:28,099
sound bites that it continued it was

1558
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:32,769
continuous this is slow bang by 50% okay

1559
01:12:28,099 --> 01:12:36,019
we move on and the following morning

1560
01:12:32,769 --> 01:12:38,570
George Wingfield has posted his official

1561
01:12:36,019 --> 01:12:42,559
report of which also went to high levels

1562
01:12:38,569 --> 01:12:43,969
of government after this is on my

1563
01:12:42,559 --> 01:12:45,400
website if you want to check the sake

1564
01:12:43,969 --> 01:12:51,590
because we're running out of time

1565
01:12:45,399 --> 01:12:55,578
Packard George Wingfield audibly spoke

1566
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:57,288
to the sound I say miss this is a guy

1567
01:12:55,578 --> 01:12:58,849
that's trying to be so credible over so

1568
01:12:57,288 --> 01:13:01,639
many years approaching this from a

1569
01:12:58,849 --> 01:13:04,130
scientific angle it's hard sometimes to

1570
01:13:01,639 --> 01:13:06,710
kind of just say it as it is we have

1571
01:13:04,130 --> 01:13:10,000
reached that time George said to the

1572
01:13:06,710 --> 01:13:12,859
sang could you please make it a circle

1573
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:15,828
well the next day those are also

1574
01:13:12,859 --> 01:13:19,729
Hampshire police photographs right over

1575
01:13:15,828 --> 01:13:22,219
the hill was a new circle no Pat Delgado

1576
01:13:19,729 --> 01:13:26,029
this was just weeks ago before he became

1577
01:13:22,219 --> 01:13:27,469
so ill on a hunch went back to chess

1578
01:13:26,029 --> 01:13:29,868
flathead we were in touch with one

1579
01:13:27,469 --> 01:13:31,969
another I live in Connecticut now Pat is

1580
01:13:29,868 --> 01:13:33,799
very little still lives very close to

1581
01:13:31,969 --> 01:13:36,198
chess if it had operations like Loeb

1582
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:38,480
program we've just been looking at he

1583
01:13:36,198 --> 01:13:42,408
went back and recorded the sounds from

1584
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:44,299
the trees that sounds strange perhaps

1585
01:13:42,408 --> 01:13:46,670
remember he is an electro mechanical

1586
01:13:44,300 --> 01:13:48,650
design engineer at NASA if a guy is

1587
01:13:46,670 --> 01:13:52,849
thinking on every level and so

1588
01:13:48,649 --> 01:13:54,729
wonderfully outside the box that's where

1589
01:13:52,849 --> 01:13:57,949
we got to go now this is the sound

1590
01:13:54,729 --> 01:13:59,629
recorded I should just say this is by

1591
01:13:57,948 --> 01:14:01,518
sticking a probe in the trunk of the

1592
01:13:59,630 --> 01:14:03,500
tree at about a meter and the other

1593
01:14:01,519 --> 01:14:05,829
probe in the ground about a meter into

1594
01:14:03,500 --> 01:14:05,828
the ground

1595
01:14:20,029 --> 01:14:25,800
that's the same coming out the trees now

1596
01:14:23,309 --> 01:14:27,420
this is the analysis by wind cage IBM a

1597
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,820
analyst programmer engineering

1598
01:14:27,420 --> 01:14:31,649
technologies at Rolls Royce just

1599
01:14:29,819 --> 01:14:35,429
recently a couple of weeks ago for me

1600
01:14:31,649 --> 01:14:37,738
for us and there is a very close match

1601
01:14:35,429 --> 01:14:39,449
this is the spectrum very close to white

1602
01:14:37,738 --> 01:14:42,208
crow which is also the dolphin's

1603
01:14:39,448 --> 01:14:44,129
communication frequency and that used by

1604
01:14:42,208 --> 01:14:49,679
the net lead but in the United States

1605
01:14:44,130 --> 01:14:51,779
Navy submarines BBC I'm sorry to move on

1606
01:14:49,679 --> 01:14:53,420
like this I knew I'd give myself a

1607
01:14:51,779 --> 01:14:56,300
challenge there's so much to tell you

1608
01:14:53,420 --> 01:14:58,670
this happened in July 89 it hit the

1609
01:14:56,300 --> 01:15:03,269
headlines in Great Britain in the time

1610
01:14:58,670 --> 01:15:05,880
the sound again this is the actual

1611
01:15:03,269 --> 01:15:08,610
headline UFO blast TV proof rum circle

1612
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:10,260
of pouring well this is what happened we

1613
01:15:08,609 --> 01:15:12,658
were making your television documentary

1614
01:15:10,260 --> 01:15:15,269
for BBC televisions Pat dog out on

1615
01:15:12,658 --> 01:15:16,679
myself this is Pat liked it finished my

1616
01:15:15,269 --> 01:15:19,739
interview and I've stood next to the

1617
01:15:16,679 --> 01:15:21,208
same man bottom left Pat is in the

1618
01:15:19,738 --> 01:15:22,919
circle that you've got here the very

1619
01:15:21,208 --> 01:15:25,408
moment this happened actually off the

1620
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:27,658
screen this is Pat in the circle and

1621
01:15:25,408 --> 01:15:31,138
he's got a radio mic like I've got on my

1622
01:15:27,658 --> 01:15:32,848
belt here Pat's got it and suddenly I'm

1623
01:15:31,139 --> 01:15:35,550
here in my old friend again and I said

1624
01:15:32,849 --> 01:15:38,819
that is on the film the sound engineer

1625
01:15:35,550 --> 01:15:41,788
is going what is that it's the same son

1626
01:15:38,819 --> 01:15:44,340
the same is shown and Patterson I can

1627
01:15:41,788 --> 01:15:46,768
feel it it's all over me it's his hair

1628
01:15:44,340 --> 01:15:49,439
stood up his arms or rip the hair and

1629
01:15:46,769 --> 01:15:51,329
arms or raised the lights come on the

1630
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:54,420
television camera the television camera

1631
01:15:51,328 --> 01:15:57,899
is destroyed the BBC guy is recording it

1632
01:15:54,420 --> 01:15:59,489
second time we've got a recording and so

1633
01:15:57,899 --> 01:16:01,259
the sound engineer came to the

1634
01:15:59,488 --> 01:16:03,478
television studios at Pebble Mill as you

1635
01:16:01,260 --> 01:16:05,369
can see bottom right with Pat Pagano

1636
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:07,199
myself and we're talking about this

1637
01:16:05,368 --> 01:16:09,328
extraordinary series of circumstances

1638
01:16:07,198 --> 01:16:12,149
which was reported on television camera

1639
01:16:09,328 --> 01:16:15,208
before it was destroyed and on sound

1640
01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:16,558
before that to stop working and as they

1641
01:16:15,208 --> 01:16:18,779
went to transmit it to the British

1642
01:16:16,559 --> 01:16:21,269
people from Pebble Mill studios in

1643
01:16:18,779 --> 01:16:25,130
Birmingham the entire power to the

1644
01:16:21,269 --> 01:16:27,780
studio was lost show out the country and

1645
01:16:25,130 --> 01:16:29,248
so the transmission any of you can pick

1646
01:16:27,779 --> 01:16:30,469
this up it's all on the internet you can

1647
01:16:29,248 --> 01:16:32,929
go and listen to it

1648
01:16:30,470 --> 01:16:35,119
you can the bleep goes in the program at

1649
01:16:32,930 --> 01:16:37,369
the precise moment of the transmission

1650
01:16:35,119 --> 01:16:40,010
and so their generators kicked into the

1651
01:16:37,369 --> 01:16:49,640
studios to take the program back forward

1652
01:16:40,010 --> 01:16:53,119
and this is the BBC side if I get that

1653
01:16:49,640 --> 01:17:00,530
this is a delicate Mouse sorry about

1654
01:16:53,119 --> 01:17:03,979
this oh all right okay the short bites

1655
01:17:00,529 --> 01:17:06,139
but it was continuous I'm going to cut

1656
01:17:03,979 --> 01:17:08,329
it short because of time that's five

1657
01:17:06,140 --> 01:17:10,880
point two kilohertz inaudible frequency

1658
01:17:08,329 --> 01:17:13,630
we're looking real close matching here

1659
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:20,210
six of July 1995 10:00 p.m.

1660
01:17:13,630 --> 01:17:21,680
what happened oh okay it's kind of

1661
01:17:20,210 --> 01:17:23,930
really important I don't really get me

1662
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:27,380
minutes here can you be in a position to

1663
01:17:23,930 --> 01:17:28,550
give me five I do apologize but it's

1664
01:17:27,380 --> 01:17:31,880
kind of really important to bring us

1665
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:34,640
into the end of this two circles

1666
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:36,770
connected by a loop put in there by

1667
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:39,800
researchers known to me it was done too

1668
01:17:36,770 --> 01:17:41,930
reliant tests the biology that was being

1669
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:45,230
done they plant analysis researching in

1670
01:17:41,930 --> 01:17:47,780
this country and testing reaction of

1671
01:17:45,229 --> 01:17:49,729
researchers as to what they saw what

1672
01:17:47,779 --> 01:17:51,259
they felt and I had nothing to do with

1673
01:17:49,729 --> 01:17:53,569
it other than that I do know the people

1674
01:17:51,260 --> 01:17:55,789
that did this and they told me they did

1675
01:17:53,569 --> 01:17:57,759
it today the day that the vet it was

1676
01:17:55,789 --> 01:18:03,010
done this was at 10:00 p.m.

1677
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:03,010
made by people there what what happened

1678
01:18:03,399 --> 01:18:09,859
this was the next morning 12 hours later

1679
01:18:07,239 --> 01:18:12,800
two more circles that have have appeared

1680
01:18:09,859 --> 01:18:14,509
in that field not man-made where the

1681
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:19,940
chlorophyll you heard this also in the

1682
01:18:14,510 --> 01:18:22,039
previous UFO presentation the

1683
01:18:19,939 --> 01:18:24,529
chlorophyll had been removed in these

1684
01:18:22,039 --> 01:18:27,710
circles and it's not just circles these

1685
01:18:24,529 --> 01:18:30,829
circles in with respect to that that was

1686
01:18:27,710 --> 01:18:33,500
man-made now for a perfect equilateral

1687
01:18:30,829 --> 01:18:36,289
triangle the major axis through the

1688
01:18:33,500 --> 01:18:39,560
man-made the two man-made cut the exact

1689
01:18:36,289 --> 01:18:42,369
center point of the baseline of the new

1690
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:43,489
arrivals so the second event was

1691
01:18:42,369 --> 01:18:46,639
absolutely

1692
01:18:43,488 --> 01:18:51,198
aware of the first and we have a symbol

1693
01:18:46,639 --> 01:18:52,279
which I believe is of importance in the

1694
01:18:51,198 --> 01:18:54,169
field next door

1695
01:18:52,279 --> 01:18:57,018
nothing to do with the people that made

1696
01:18:54,170 --> 01:19:00,979
those two little circles is a monster

1697
01:18:57,019 --> 01:19:03,409
this monster appeared in the field right

1698
01:19:00,979 --> 01:19:05,719
next door as they were doing it or if a

1699
01:19:03,408 --> 01:19:09,558
same night that they had nothing to do

1700
01:19:05,719 --> 01:19:12,340
with and it to reference to chlorophyll

1701
01:19:09,559 --> 01:19:15,559
free areas in that field

1702
01:19:12,340 --> 01:19:18,050
exactly center of the design which

1703
01:19:15,559 --> 01:19:21,800
cannot be seen at ground level by day

1704
01:19:18,050 --> 01:19:25,219
and sure as hell by night but it's

1705
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:28,909
referenced positioned located with

1706
01:19:25,219 --> 01:19:31,849
accuracy and that's it from the map to

1707
01:19:28,908 --> 01:19:36,158
show you the placement that's not

1708
01:19:31,849 --> 01:19:38,599
unusual this is a another large design

1709
01:19:36,158 --> 01:19:40,609
positioned in the landscape with respect

1710
01:19:38,599 --> 01:19:43,610
to the watershed the water runoff of the

1711
01:19:40,609 --> 01:19:46,639
chemicals that we are eating this is the

1712
01:19:43,609 --> 01:19:48,259
chemical wash off patterning that is

1713
01:19:46,639 --> 01:19:50,840
created that can be seen from higher

1714
01:19:48,260 --> 01:19:53,689
elevations and the design referencing

1715
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:57,889
dead center and again this is a Roman

1716
01:19:53,689 --> 01:19:59,630
Road from from London to Bath which

1717
01:19:57,889 --> 01:20:03,288
can't be seen at ground level of the

1718
01:19:59,630 --> 01:20:05,420
design dead set that's a Roman Road this

1719
01:20:03,288 --> 01:20:08,809
is a Tai Chi instructor and Ram Prasad

1720
01:20:05,420 --> 01:20:11,599
who decided to make crop circles what go

1721
01:20:08,809 --> 01:20:13,670
into the reasons why he did this is the

1722
01:20:11,599 --> 01:20:15,288
design he drew with his brother and said

1723
01:20:13,670 --> 01:20:16,939
we're going to make this we're going to

1724
01:20:15,288 --> 01:20:19,788
test it we're going to do all these kind

1725
01:20:16,939 --> 01:20:22,579
of things with Tai Chi and we're going

1726
01:20:19,788 --> 01:20:27,679
to make it at Barbary castle and

1727
01:20:22,578 --> 01:20:30,768
Wiltshire his brother fell ill but that

1728
01:20:27,679 --> 01:20:34,429
appeared anyway in the very field they

1729
01:20:30,769 --> 01:20:34,939
planned to put it they had nothing to do

1730
01:20:34,429 --> 01:20:40,158
with it

1731
01:20:34,939 --> 01:20:43,760
say night same field same design how far

1732
01:20:40,158 --> 01:20:45,768
are we pushing credibility here this is

1733
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:48,650
a journalist Ned

1734
01:20:45,769 --> 01:20:49,869
pavulon work for Hospital radio in

1735
01:20:48,649 --> 01:20:52,670
England

1736
01:20:49,868 --> 01:20:54,710
1994 he went in with circlemakers they

1737
01:20:52,670 --> 01:20:57,770
are well known for it in London making

1738
01:20:54,710 --> 01:20:59,569
wonderful crop circles and witnessed and

1739
01:20:57,770 --> 01:21:01,520
you can listen to his audio on the

1740
01:20:59,569 --> 01:21:04,759
internet I had it with me we don't have

1741
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:07,700
time to play it witnessing for himself

1742
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:09,949
these bizarre flashes of light that just

1743
01:21:07,699 --> 01:21:12,170
come out of nowhere in their nighttime

1744
01:21:09,949 --> 01:21:14,179
making the circle they went back a

1745
01:21:12,170 --> 01:21:15,710
second day to finish it and they have

1746
01:21:14,180 --> 01:21:18,469
the same thing happen again

1747
01:21:15,710 --> 01:21:21,439
these flashes of light no lightning no

1748
01:21:18,469 --> 01:21:23,989
human linear bus clouds calm conditions

1749
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:25,639
I've seen this myself my mum and dad

1750
01:21:23,988 --> 01:21:28,789
were with me on one occasion brought

1751
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:31,280
they'd like the dog step back a flash of

1752
01:21:28,789 --> 01:21:34,039
light out of nowhere and all I'm doing

1753
01:21:31,279 --> 01:21:36,019
is measuring a crop circle and so we

1754
01:21:34,039 --> 01:21:38,988
measured the brains of many many people

1755
01:21:36,020 --> 01:21:41,420
with the very scientists who it right in

1756
01:21:38,988 --> 01:21:43,879
front of me massacre Okada the obv a

1757
01:21:41,420 --> 01:21:46,569
system that he invented as in many

1758
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:48,890
hospitals in this country and a

1759
01:21:46,569 --> 01:21:50,569
wonderful piece of technology which is

1760
01:21:48,890 --> 01:21:52,730
called way further down the road now

1761
01:21:50,569 --> 01:21:55,549
measuring the brains if there's

1762
01:21:52,729 --> 01:21:57,919
something that we are interacting with

1763
01:21:55,550 --> 01:21:59,659
or it is interacting with us is there

1764
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,489
anything that we can measure is there

1765
01:21:59,659 --> 01:22:04,039
anything we can get our handle on a

1766
01:22:01,488 --> 01:22:06,619
handle on that connects this thing

1767
01:22:04,039 --> 01:22:09,079
together well we had dozers this was

1768
01:22:06,619 --> 01:22:12,380
Richard Andrews who was unfortunately no

1769
01:22:09,079 --> 01:22:14,269
pass Richard did some great work and uh

1770
01:22:12,380 --> 01:22:16,730
I was wired up myself with the Daisy

1771
01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:17,690
this is what we found a trained eye will

1772
01:22:16,729 --> 01:22:19,579
pick the same and we're not going to

1773
01:22:17,689 --> 01:22:21,829
hang around on it he's an increased

1774
01:22:19,579 --> 01:22:23,329
alpha spike when the dowsing rods

1775
01:22:21,829 --> 01:22:25,909
there's wonderful things that housing

1776
01:22:23,329 --> 01:22:28,789
was also denied by many people the party

1777
01:22:25,909 --> 01:22:30,500
trick of which it is not the Daisy was

1778
01:22:28,789 --> 01:22:32,988
that he set water to take many other

1779
01:22:30,500 --> 01:22:34,760
things so the rod moves and tells us the

1780
01:22:32,988 --> 01:22:37,729
direction of the crop circle on this

1781
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:41,060
perimeter and at the same time there's

1782
01:22:37,729 --> 01:22:42,949
an alpha tweak that will peak on both

1783
01:22:41,060 --> 01:22:46,789
right and left-hand side of the brain

1784
01:22:42,949 --> 01:22:48,979
there's examples where a very unusual

1785
01:22:46,789 --> 01:22:51,649
massive hero would be better talkin to

1786
01:22:48,979 --> 01:22:54,289
this deny there's a coherence between

1787
01:22:51,649 --> 01:22:56,929
both sides of the brains that have been

1788
01:22:54,289 --> 01:22:58,699
measured there this is also of interest

1789
01:22:56,930 --> 01:22:59,590
and I think this kind of begins to hone

1790
01:22:58,699 --> 01:23:02,720
into it

1791
01:22:59,590 --> 01:23:05,659
here's an array of individuals an array

1792
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:08,390
of interests dancers non-dancers

1793
01:23:05,659 --> 01:23:11,720
believers skeptics I hate that term by

1794
01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:13,720
the way of which I've just used see how

1795
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:16,220
it gets to you done there

1796
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:18,590
my friend here of some of you will know

1797
01:23:16,220 --> 01:23:20,869
reg Presley of the trogs Wild Thing you

1798
01:23:18,590 --> 01:23:24,650
make my heart sing well he is my buddy

1799
01:23:20,869 --> 01:23:26,539
and here he is he's an artist well that

1800
01:23:24,649 --> 01:23:30,469
might be something in here now when we

1801
01:23:26,539 --> 01:23:33,789
meditate when we find the elf waves and

1802
01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:36,409
we work with the elf aways in our minds

1803
01:23:33,789 --> 01:23:38,810
something special happens

1804
01:23:36,409 --> 01:23:41,510
this woman is Isabelle Kingston at the

1805
01:23:38,810 --> 01:23:43,670
bottom they just look at the graph that

1806
01:23:41,510 --> 01:23:47,239
we have here for her this is in and

1807
01:23:43,670 --> 01:23:50,329
around circles now this person practices

1808
01:23:47,239 --> 01:23:52,010
meditation kind of important it's just

1809
01:23:50,329 --> 01:23:53,420
like a muscle you know the more you use

1810
01:23:52,010 --> 01:23:56,510
it the stronger it gets

1811
01:23:53,420 --> 01:23:59,480
and so jumping from one thing to another

1812
01:23:56,510 --> 01:24:03,050
kind of close here this was from the

1813
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:05,869
media investigation of crop circles john

1814
01:24:03,050 --> 01:24:09,470
McNish x BBC television no hemp is his

1815
01:24:05,869 --> 01:24:12,130
own business putting together a final

1816
01:24:09,470 --> 01:24:14,360
documentary on the crop circles

1817
01:24:12,130 --> 01:24:16,609
analyzing the book which was going out

1818
01:24:14,359 --> 01:24:20,389
with the television documentary the

1819
01:24:16,609 --> 01:24:23,000
answer is here and the absolute john

1820
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:25,190
thought was they're all made by people

1821
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:29,720
and the story Doug and Dave have told

1822
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:31,969
you is true until minutes just moments

1823
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:34,730
from finalizing his script this

1824
01:24:31,970 --> 01:24:37,369
conversation came out this is Doug and

1825
01:24:34,729 --> 01:24:40,099
Dave with John there I can't explain it

1826
01:24:37,369 --> 01:24:41,720
daily can't explain this is dud of the

1827
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:44,030
duggar day of people attending the

1828
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:46,190
senior citizens who who said they may

1829
01:24:44,029 --> 01:24:48,170
pop circles Dave can't explain it either

1830
01:24:46,189 --> 01:24:49,849
but when we were sitting in the field

1831
01:24:48,170 --> 01:24:51,949
and looking at the whole thing that

1832
01:24:49,850 --> 01:24:54,470
feeling comes through us that feeling of

1833
01:24:51,949 --> 01:24:57,409
mystery that feeling of where are we

1834
01:24:54,470 --> 01:25:00,380
here at all there was a long silence as

1835
01:24:57,409 --> 01:25:03,680
Doug sat staring at me then Dave picked

1836
01:25:00,380 --> 01:25:07,130
up don't use to say to me sometimes

1837
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:09,710
while we were eight and we just done one

1838
01:25:07,130 --> 01:25:10,389
meaning made a crop circle why do we do

1839
01:25:09,710 --> 01:25:12,639
it

1840
01:25:10,389 --> 01:25:15,340
and we could never explain that certain

1841
01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:20,170
thing and don't use to say do you think

1842
01:25:15,340 --> 01:25:24,610
there's something that makes us and that

1843
01:25:20,170 --> 01:25:29,020
did and still does really get to us were

1844
01:25:24,609 --> 01:25:33,309
we being told to almost go out and make

1845
01:25:29,020 --> 01:25:36,280
them I know it sounds crazy well you

1846
01:25:33,310 --> 01:25:38,159
know to be frank with you it doesn't for

1847
01:25:36,279 --> 01:25:42,009
me at all

1848
01:25:38,158 --> 01:25:45,698
we are part of this one on whether by

1849
01:25:42,010 --> 01:25:48,520
accident or not we are now engaged in a

1850
01:25:45,698 --> 01:25:54,069
social experiment whether that was

1851
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:56,800
engineered by somebody somewhere or

1852
01:25:54,069 --> 01:25:59,618
whether it happened by accident that's

1853
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:02,619
where we know our the only way we can

1854
01:25:59,618 --> 01:26:04,630
take this forward is to drop the fences

1855
01:26:02,618 --> 01:26:06,250
I believe there was more by the way to

1856
01:26:04,630 --> 01:26:08,980
the presentation I'm going to hold it

1857
01:26:06,250 --> 01:26:13,448
here though because of the time factor

1858
01:26:08,979 --> 01:26:16,559
I really do feel that we are directly

1859
01:26:13,448 --> 01:26:19,319
involved in this and that it is our

1860
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:22,420
positioning from where we had first come

1861
01:26:19,319 --> 01:26:25,509
an acknowledgement and a realization of

1862
01:26:22,420 --> 01:26:27,429
how we got here with all that spin with

1863
01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:29,500
all that distortion with fighting wars

1864
01:26:27,429 --> 01:26:30,940
that didn't need to be for and knowing

1865
01:26:29,500 --> 01:26:33,609
the next ones coming if we don't do

1866
01:26:30,939 --> 01:26:37,539
something about it all of that all of

1867
01:26:33,609 --> 01:26:39,809
that needs now to be placed right in

1868
01:26:37,539 --> 01:26:45,359
front of us and people who represent us

1869
01:26:39,810 --> 01:26:48,639
because the future will already be if we

1870
01:26:45,359 --> 01:26:50,738
understand many I'm sorry to say this I

1871
01:26:48,639 --> 01:26:54,250
am myself of the male sec I hope you can

1872
01:26:50,738 --> 01:26:57,849
see men in particular need to be able to

1873
01:26:54,250 --> 01:27:00,639
use the word understand the word love

1874
01:26:57,850 --> 01:27:04,719
and know what it's about

1875
01:27:00,639 --> 01:27:07,090
because there lies the future right

1876
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:09,550
there it is as simple as that there is

1877
01:27:07,090 --> 01:27:13,420
so much going on here but it's access

1878
01:27:09,550 --> 01:27:15,600
time forward together ahead thanks very

1879
01:27:13,420 --> 01:27:15,600
much

1880
01:27:18,569 --> 01:27:21,689
thank you